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Old Mar 13, 2008 | 04:38 AM
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You can retain the ducting with the Blown 6. I think you can with the EVO, as well. I don't see how you could with the larger units, though...unless you did some cutting and fab work to the duct pieces...
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Do you have the conical style air filters in the duct area with the B6 IC's?
 
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that is his car (yellow) in the last pic (Blown6 I/C)

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200%! wow weeeee!
 
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Last year Stephen at iA sent me the Evo IC’s and since then I do not regret a second the purchase.

We are having a very hot long summer and the power is super consistent (Insurance for healthy A/F ratios @ 1.2bar to the red line on 93 ) and even more important with the additions of the 1.0 bar WG, it absolutely transform the Power&Torque band between 1,800-4,800 Rmp’s, much less lag and usable/enjoyable power&torque.

A lot of people here criticize this mod at 520 AWHP at list give you 5-8 AWHP (30rwhp at 600AWHP) but for my personal experience decreasing lag and making a more elastic power/torque delivery will overcome to get just a simple/spike marketable attractive peak AWHP.
 
Old Mar 13, 2008 | 03:29 PM
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+1! I also picked up the EVO IC's from Stephen last year, and they have made a HUGE difference. Just as Pierre says above, less lag, stronger boost, and cooler temps. Even better, with lower boost (1.1 bar), I'm making the same if not more power as I was before at 1.4+ evidenced by my trap speeds in 1/4 mile and Vmax (no other mods). Well worth the effort it took to install!
 
Old Mar 13, 2008 | 06:26 PM
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The X50 IC's are not worth the work putting them in, I went with Blown 6 out of Canada and I am a happy guy.I know the Evo are awesome but Blown 6 was local and I could have them the next day.
 
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I had the B6 ones in my car... I loved them coz I didnt have to mod the car or hack it.......everything bolted right up and the car ran super.... PLUS SAVED....$$.. did I say how much cheaper they were from the rest...Oh you save $$$$$... remember they didnt cost as much as the others!! lol....
 
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Originally Posted by WOODTSTER
Some different I/C applications:

Marty! May I ask which one is Proto's IC? What IC do you have?
 
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Who sells the Blown 6s and how much ? Link please
 
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Who sells the Blown 6s and how much ? Link please
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Old Mar 14, 2008 | 02:09 AM
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More details about how to purchase the blown 6 intercoolers thanks.
 
Old Mar 14, 2008 | 03:03 AM
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Originally Posted by oak
200%! wow weeeee!
Let's see...

If there is any intercooler around that can keep intake temps within 68 F of ambient temps at full boost in 4th gear it would be a major achievement. B6, EVOMS, PROTO, SPEARCO, BELL, stock whichever...Bar and plate or not, tube and fin etc...etc.. This would still put it at 70-80% efficiency MAX.

To measure this correctly, you need to hook in a Bosch hammer to your OBD II port and read the temps as you accelerate at full boost in 4th or 5th for a few seconds, very easliy done with a video camera. The upcoming texas Mile would be a great testing ground for all these wonderfully marvelous ICs. So let us see some real life data, forget test bench measurements for a while.

An intercooler with a 200% efficiency would actually drop your intake temps by an impossible amount. Here is an example:

Ambient temperature: 70F
Temp before IC: 240F
IAT: 138F
Thermal Efficiency: (240-138)/(240-70)= 60% efficiency.

Wonder intercooler:
Ambient 70F
Temp before IC: 240F
IAT: 10F
Thermal Efficiency: 135%

Let's see those ICs with IAT readings within 68F of ambient temps at full boost.

The efficiency numbers thrown around are really misleading, certainly there are some better than others, but within realistic limits, and most of them would not make any difference to the occasional qmile times. A one mile run is a different story I am sure.
 
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I'll hook up my laptop with Durametric next time out and get some numbers.
 
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I just email him, I am going to see if I can put together a group buy for you guys, I am local to him so it makes sense.

Ok who wants them!
 
Old Mar 14, 2008 | 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by jimmer23
+1! I also picked up the EVO IC's from Stephen last year, and they have made a HUGE difference. Just as Pierre says above, less lag, stronger boost, and cooler temps. Even better, with lower boost (1.1 bar), I'm making the same if not more power as I was before at 1.4+ evidenced by my trap speeds in 1/4 mile and Vmax (no other mods). Well worth the effort it took to install!
Jimmer, just to clarify you say that the EVO IC's have made a huge difference with less lag and stronger boost on stock K16's ?
 


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