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Old Jul 6, 2004 | 02:44 AM
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Originally posted by twinvipers
CJV,

How do these guys launch the AWD cars in the 1/4 mile ? I'm assuming they come out real easy till the clutch is all the way out ???

I will be taking it to the drag strip a few times a year. Can the car go 11.50's with the ECU and exhaust ?
If you´re a good driver you should be able to get mid-to-high 11´s at ~124 mph with an ECU and exhaust.
 
Old Jul 6, 2004 | 03:56 AM
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What do they run stock ? (Not magazine times, real times)
 
Old Jul 6, 2004 | 05:27 AM
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What do they run stock ? (Not magazine times, real times)
You can expect a low 12.
 
Old Jul 6, 2004 | 05:44 AM
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Anyone in the NY/NJ area drag race ?
 
Old Jul 6, 2004 | 07:54 AM
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Originally posted by NoMercy
I was merely answering your comment about how a 9 sec Vette/Viper would be useless for anything else but drag racing. I think you should do a bit of research.

Not too many guys run their cars for 12 hours straight. When was the last time you ran a car for 12 hours?

Do you do alot of road racing or do you do mostly informal "canyon carving"?
What I meant is that in the 9 second configuration it would be useless for anything but drag racing. When Chad and I talk about 10 second runs, this is in street or road racing configuration, not specifically set up for drag.

I have run cars for 12 hours when on long trips up the state or across states. More importantly, the point is that if a motor can last even a 12 hour enduro, it means it is very reliable, and will be a 100,000 mile motor without needing a rebuild. That's the point.

In answer to your last question, I do both. I get to the track about once a month now, maybe twice if I'm lucky.

I don't wish to argue if Porsches are superior to Vettes, because we all know the answer to that question. After all, it appears you voted with your wallet.
 
Old Jul 6, 2004 | 08:05 AM
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Originally posted by cjv
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The big hot side turbo makes too much lag for the street. That is the reason for the nitrous assist in my car. The physics of the large turbo coupled with the small displccement motor guarantee lag. Now be honest, at what rpm did the power on your old car really kick in?

Another honest question, at the shootout how many runs did you make and what were the times of each? I am assuming the 10.7 was the trophy run and the others were probably in the range of 10.9-11.4.
Chad, if I give you the honest answer, you wouldn't believe me, so I suggest you ask Todd K. as well. The car started making boost at 2500rpm and I got full boost by 3500, no joke.

I don't agree with you regarding the T04E setup being too big for the street. This is hardly the case, as I drove the car in the city, through the canyons, and even a whole track day and never noticed too much lag. In fact, the only real difference between the Turbo and my new GT2 is the power difference, the boost characteristics are very similar. If I had the newer GT30 series Turbos, it would spool even faster.

As for the Shootout, the 10.7 was hardly the trophy run, the car did 2-3 runs prior and the one just before the 10.74 was a better launch and better run (you can ask Sharky, he was there), but alas the computer equipment failed to record the time.

The car performs very consistently, and one run with a poor launch yielded either a 10.8 or 10.9 after the 10.74 run. Car never ran into the 11's.

I wish you could have checked out the car and driven it, Chad. It really was quite a piece of work. Even the S-Car-Go guys couldn't help but be impressed!
 
Old Jul 6, 2004 | 08:31 AM
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Originally posted by Hamann7
What I meant is that in the 9 second configuration it would be useless for anything but drag racing. When Chad and I talk about 10 second runs, this is in street or road racing configuration, not specifically set up for drag.

I have run cars for 12 hours when on long trips up the state or across states. More importantly, the point is that if a motor can last even a 12 hour enduro, it means it is very reliable, and will be a 100,000 mile motor without needing a rebuild. That's the point.

In answer to your last question, I do both. I get to the track about once a month now, maybe twice if I'm lucky.

I don't wish to argue if Porsches are superior to Vettes, because we all know the answer to that question. After all, it appears you voted with your wallet.
My Z06 ran the 9 with no special configuration, other than track tires. If that is what you meant then I agree.

I am sure an MTI motor could handle a 12 hour drive.

As to the Porsche vs. Vette thing .... you got me there. If I had more room I would get another Vette though. A C6 Z06 is calling, but I have also caught the Porsche bug. I have also caught the Viper bug and the Lambo bug and the M5 bug and ....
 
Old Jul 6, 2004 | 08:39 AM
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So how would your Z06 perform on a race track against something like CJV's car or even a GT3 Cup car? This is interesting, because even most full out Le Mans race cars (including the C5-R) don't run 9's in the quarter... so it makes one wonder? I would think that a 9 second Vette would not be very well balanced on a race track, especially with Nitrous???

I have never pounded my car in an enduro for 12 hours (would like to one day, however), but I have seen modified 996TT motors and GT3 Cup motors go for 24 hours of full out racing. I guess Vettes have too with the C5-R, but I would argue that the C5-R motor is further from a stock Z06 than a Cup motor or modified Turbo motor is from our cars.

I have caught the CGT bug... unfortunately, I can't justify spending half a million on a car just yet... New M5 looks interesting, but the I-Drive and the exterior turn me off.

At least no one in their right mind would dare compare their Z06 to a Carrera GT, unlike our 911's!
 
Old Jul 6, 2004 | 08:44 AM
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Originally posted by twinvipers
NoMercy

Just drove my car 11 hours, ran it at the track, 9 sec passes and drove home with the a/c on.
You guys should read the post about the recent open road race in Nevada, when a Viper GTS piloted by one of the board members here (a friend of mine) caught on fire, stopping the race!

https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...threadid=12227
 
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Tyson, I would give CJV the definite nod on a road course. His car seems to be very well sorted out and has a ton of well thought out mods.

My Z06 was very a very fast well balanced street car. I am not going to claim it was some road course burner but it could go fast turn and stop extremely well. But it now belongs to someone else so I guess it does not matter anyway.

I feel your pain on the M5. I think the M6 may be more interesting. I just need to hold my wad and wait for it.
 
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Originally posted by Hamann7
Chad, if I give you the honest answer, you wouldn't believe me, so I suggest you ask Todd K. as well. The car started making boost at 2500rpm and I got full boost by 3500, no joke.

I don't agree with you regarding the T04E setup being too big for the street. This is hardly the case, as I drove the car in the city, through the canyons, and even a whole track day and never noticed too much lag. In fact, the only real difference between the Turbo and my new GT2 is the power difference, the boost characteristics are very similar. If I had the newer GT30 series Turbos, it would spool even faster.

As for the Shootout, the 10.7 was hardly the trophy run, the car did 2-3 runs prior and the one just before the 10.74 was a better launch and better run (you can ask Sharky, he was there), but alas the computer equipment failed to record the time.

The car performs very consistently, and one run with a poor launch yielded either a 10.8 or 10.9 after the 10.74 run. Car never ran into the 11's.

I wish you could have checked out the car and driven it, Chad. It really was quite a piece of work. Even the S-Car-Go guys couldn't help but be impressed!
In all honesty, I am very surprised. However, I have not driven it and if you vouch for it ........ I believe you.
 
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