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Old Mar 21, 2008 | 02:57 PM
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Wrapping pipes on a turboed car

Hello everyone,

I see ads all the time for a wrap, I assume for the exhaust. The ads say that the wraps keep temperatures lower and increases power for turboed cars.

How does this work are there any gains in this?

I know I am not the most creative modder out there so I assume if this was worth it this topic would have been covered before but I could not find anything about it.

Thanks for your opinions.

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dont do it, corrodes the headers and exhaust.
most people go with ceramic coating will help a little with heat management but doubt you will feel much.
 
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Thats what I assumed.

Thanks,
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you will just have a nasty dirty mess......
 
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Didn't you or someone say that porting the stock headers and then ceramic coating them actually does a good job with added power?
 
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Ceramic the way to go

Also Small Spring has a very good plan. Between ceramic and porting, you will gain.
 
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Tom

Didn't you or someone say that porting the stock headers and then ceramic coating them actually does a good job with added power?
for header upgrades on platforms up to 600 hp porting and ceramic coating is felt that that is "all" that is needed as opposed to buying expensive headers.

for hp above 600hp it is felt that the engine, turbos need or perform better with aftermarket headers.

alot of people port their own headers do a search and you will find alot.
some shops will swap out yours for another set ready to go.

honestly if you look at an after market header like the ones from Vivid, like I have on they are well made and very reasonably priced not a bad way to go.

 
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I had my stockers kicking around collecting dust and dirt, so after reading many posts on the subject I decided to port them. I am not selling them but here is a few pics that may give you a idea. I will say these were hard to port, the material I mean, very very hard SS.I will say there is more to come out of there then you think.Try it, I am sure it will help!
 
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Those look great.

What bits did you use?
 
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Thanks, I went thru ALLOT of bits...this material was HARD, I used a Course 50 grit stone, then 80, then 120, then 160 to polish. I used a air grinder with a rather large compressor, I did these at one of my manufacturing plants. I think I have around 5 hours into them. If I were going to use them I would have them ceramic coated for sure.
 
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Cool.

Once my car gets here that is one of the first mods I will do, ok along with suspension and wheels and short shift etc
 
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Hi Gary, I went with ceramic coat and had them really lay it on my exhaust housing. I do however believe in the turbo wrap (performed) the turbos give off some heat that make everything else hot!
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Porting, polishing and coating the stock headers looks easy enough to do when swapping out the turbos.

So how effective is porting & polishing the headers and ceramic coating the outside of the headers for a 600hp car? What gains do you get apart from keeping some heat out of the engine bay?

Also, to be really effective, won't you need to coat the inside of the headers (not recommended for a turbo however), to keep the heat out of the metal, as the coating on the outside, like the wrap, does not stop the header from heating up?
 

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