996 Turbo / GT2 Turbo discussion on previous model 2000-2005 Porsche 911 Twin Turbo and 911 GT2.

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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 01:06 AM
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Thanks TT993!

Can't blame him cuz the video did not include the "intro" as each of the "Option" DVD has. Their guest- drivers are actually either former/current Japanese GT drivers and get invited to test all their cars (tunner cars or supersport). Donuts/drifting/lap-time comparisions are considered normal write-ups for this well-known Japanese car magazine. This video was filmed at Suzuka, where they have the world Moto GP each year.

 
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btw, the NSXR is not running r compound tires.
It's pretty well-known that in the Best Motoring videos the JDM cars are on r-compound rubber. This is the reason why in the other videos the Lancer Evo VI outruns the 996TT and 360 Modena and also why the 350Z outruns the BMW M3.

BTW, the 996TT is a 6-speed.
 
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Couple of things...

1) I didn't see a 3rd pedal on the 911 Turbo, kinda a strange choice for an all out racing competition... Also, a GT2 should be decking it out with the Murci, not a Turbo, IMHO.

2) This movie was filmed in Japan, by Japanese and for Japanese audience, now who is still wondering why the NSX was doing so well? Same with 5th/Top Gears and their preference for Brit cars.

No matter who won, it's a nice video showing awesome cars doing what they were built to do... Thanks for posting.
 
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BTW, the 996TT is a 6-speed.
I'm gonna say "no".

 
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I enjoyed it, except for the cheesey announcer. The driver of the NSX-R was actually a good driver, near the end watch his foot work, impressive.
 
Old Aug 11, 2004 | 03:59 AM
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rost, I stand corrected. I kept looking at the shifter and thinking it looks too skinny to be a tip shifter, must be the lighting or something.

EDIT: BTW, I have another Best Motoring movie featuring an F50, Murci, GT2, C4S, Gemballa and NSX-R and the GT2 comes in 2nd place after the F50. I think this one was posted a while back, but I'm not positive.
 

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Okey-silly-dokey, I am an idiot for not seeing this thread. Yea... too many politics in that video.
 
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Originally posted by ZAMIRZ
It's pretty well-known that in the Best Motoring videos the JDM cars are on r-compound rubber. This is the reason why in the other videos the Lancer Evo VI outruns the 996TT and 360 Modena and also why the 350Z outruns the BMW M3.

BTW, the 996TT is a 6-speed.



that sounds like a bunch of nonsense. I've heard that somewhere else before but it seemed like down right propaganda. I say you find some proof in it first
 
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Originally posted by rost12

2) This movie was filmed in Japan, by Japanese and for Japanese audience, now who is still wondering why the NSX was doing so well? Same with 5th/Top Gears and their preference for Brit cars.
Someone needs to tell those guys that the Lambo's are manufactured in Italy, not in Japan
 
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Someone needs to tell those guys that the Lambo's are manufactured in Italy, not in Japan
Maybe because they were the Axis powers? Oh wait, the Porsche would have done better then.
 
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that sounds like a bunch of nonsense. I've heard that somewhere else before but it seemed like down right propaganda. I say you find some proof in it first
Do you really think an NSX-R (weight: 2800 lbs.) with 276bhp and 224 lbs. ft. of torque can pull that large of an advantage in a 3 lap race over a 996 Turbo (weight: 3480 lbs.) that has 415bhp and 413 lbs. ft. of torque or a 360 Modena (weight: 3064 lbs.) that has 395bhp and 275 lbs. ft. of torque? There's 1 of two things that can be going on here, either the car is tweaked or the driver skill is. I prefer to believe the car is by just looking at the way the NSX is carrying speed into the corners and more importantly, how it out-brakes the rest of the field so easily. True, the driver may be more aggressive, but there's no way in hell that thing is bone stock outrunning 3 other cars in that short of a race, the least-powerful of which (the M3 at 360bhp) still has approximately 80 more hp.
 
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In the other Best motoring Video, with the Murci, F50 and Gt2, both the F50 and Gt2 are significantly modded. In the translated version, the guy in the murci is told to take it very easy on the car, not to mention it was his first time behind the wheel.

As for the Nsx-r, it has been mentioned before that, the factory send Best motoring some finely tuned ringers. The Nsx-r though is no joke. Pretty cool car inmo, but without even a/c it is unuseable in street use.
 
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Originally posted by ZAMIRZ
Do you really think an NSX-R (weight: 2800 lbs.) with 276bhp and 224 lbs. ft. of torque can pull that large of an advantage in a 3 lap race over a 996 Turbo (weight: 3480 lbs.) that has 415bhp and 413 lbs. ft. of torque or a 360 Modena (weight: 3064 lbs.) that has 395bhp and 275 lbs. ft. of torque? There's 1 of two things that can be going on here, either the car is tweaked or the driver skill is. I prefer to believe the car is by just looking at the way the NSX is carrying speed into the corners and more importantly, how it out-brakes the rest of the field so easily. True, the driver may be more aggressive, but there's no way in hell that thing is bone stock outrunning 3 other cars in that short of a race, the least-powerful of which (the M3 at 360bhp) still has approximately 80 more hp.
You do know the NSX-R makes more than 276HP right??? In reality, it's making over 300hp easy. It's the whole "Japanese Gentlemen's Agreement" that all their cars are listed with max power of 280ps = 276hp.

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You do know the NSX-R makes more than 276HP right??? In reality, it's making over 300hp easy. It's the whole "Japanese Gentlemen's Agreement" that all their cars are listed with max power of 280ps = 276hp.

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Hmm, I totally forgot about that. This is true. I did some calculations and came up with a hp of 341 for the NSX based on the torque and maximum engine speed. Still, the numbers don't add up.....especially the distance it pulled in just 3 laps around that circuit.
 
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Lambo ruled. Everything's fine in my book.

BTW, I do agree a GT2 would have been better.

Something that I have to ponder ... has anyone dyno'ed a stock NSX? In every comparison, it's fast as heck (Top Gear and C6Vette, for example) and that 280hp can only be "wrong".
 


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