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Old Sep 12, 2008 | 12:25 PM
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Gen 1 PCCB rotor

I just found that I got a chip on my front right rotor and it needs to be replaced. I really don't want to spend $5K+ just for one rotor from the dealership.

If anyone have one lying around, please pm me. Thanks in advance.
 
Old Sep 19, 2008 | 07:27 PM
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Replace PCCB with Steel Rotors

I have been through the same issue as you. I am currently working on the documentation of my process, with photos, for keeping my 6-piston calipers and swapping the worn out generation 1 ceramic rotors, to steel cup rotors with NO modification. I hope to have this completed soon and will post it. The local Porsche dealer wanted $4,100/ rotor with a core charge of $1,000 (this is for just ONE). For less than 20% of this cost, plus my old rotors, with hats, I had custom-made steel rotors made to exactly replace the ceramics. This was done on the front axle only. I am still using the ceramic rotors on the rear. Now I can use the very aggressive Pagid yellow pads at the track. The stopping performance is considerably better than OEM and there is no loud squeak. Call Cam at Maltby Motorsports in Woodinville, Wa. 425.481.1706.
 
Old Sep 19, 2008 | 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by mglamarche
I have been through the same issue as you. I am currently working on the documentation of my process, with photos, for keeping my 6-piston calipers and swapping the worn out generation 1 ceramic rotors, to steel cup rotors with NO modification. I hope to have this completed soon and will post it. The local Porsche dealer wanted $4,100/ rotor with a core charge of $1,000 (this is for just ONE). For less than 20% of this cost, plus my old rotors, with hats, I had custom-made steel rotors made to exactly replace the ceramics. This was done on the front axle only. I am still using the ceramic rotors on the rear. Now I can use the very aggressive Pagid yellow pads at the track. The stopping performance is considerably better than OEM and there is no loud squeak. Call Cam at Maltby Motorsports in Woodinville, Wa. 425.481.1706.
My dealer quoted me $5K+ for replacing one rotor, that's why I can looking for a used one. Going to steels are my last choice, as I don't want to change all 4s and dealing with more brake dust. thanks for the info anyway.. definitely an alternative
 
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Originally Posted by mglamarche
I have been through the same issue as you. I am currently working on the documentation of my process, with photos, for keeping my 6-piston calipers and swapping the worn out generation 1 ceramic rotors, to steel cup rotors with NO modification. I hope to have this completed soon and will post it. The local Porsche dealer wanted $4,100/ rotor with a core charge of $1,000 (this is for just ONE). For less than 20% of this cost, plus my old rotors, with hats, I had custom-made steel rotors made to exactly replace the ceramics. This was done on the front axle only. I am still using the ceramic rotors on the rear. Now I can use the very aggressive Pagid yellow pads at the track. The stopping performance is considerably better than OEM and there is no loud squeak. Call Cam at Maltby Motorsports in Woodinville, Wa. 425.481.1706.

I'm def. interested on how you fit the cup rotors w/o altering the offset on the hub/rotor assembly..,
 
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With an EXACT copy made from your original ceramic rotor, using the SAME hats (with minor modification made to attaching hardware) there is NO need to modify anything on the car itself. The steel rotors weigh more, but I never noticed the 20lb difference and for the first time I have dust on my front wheels. The benefit is that I saved lots of green and can stop quicker than any ceramic set up with the more aggressive Pagid pads that can be used with the steel rotors rather than the wimpy pads that must be used for the ceramics rotors.
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With an EXACT copy made from your original ceramic rotor, using the SAME hats (with minor modification made to attaching hardware) there is NO need to modify anything on the car itself. The steel rotors weigh more, but I never noticed the 20lb difference and for the first time I have dust on my front wheels. The benefit is that I saved lots of green and can stop quicker than any ceramic set up with the more aggressive Pagid pads that can be used with the steel rotors rather than the wimpy pads that must be used for the ceramics rotors.
Michael
My understanding is that the pad used for PCCBs is nearly identical to standard pagid yellows. Of course the rotor side of the friction surface is totally different, so it will perform differently, but I've been told those pads almost the same.

Racers do also switch pads on ceramics- pagid blacks are used, among others, though of course rotor life is affected...
 
Old Sep 21, 2008 | 11:36 PM
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Pads for Ceramic Rotors Vs. Steel rotors

I was not aware of this. I can say however, there is no comparison between the stopping power of the steel 350mm rotors with Pagid Yellow pads and keeping the original six piston calipers and the 350mm OEM ceramic rotors with the OEM pads. I stop far deeper into the turns and find no brake fade due to the heat build up (I’ve heated the rotors enough to see faint blue in them). The ONLY benefit I saw with the ceramic rotors was no brake dust...period. That's a lot of money for this feature!

Michael
 
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