it would be nice to have lighter wheels from the factory. anyone know what gt3 wheels weigh, or the projected weight on the new gt2/3 wheel [12"].?

i presume the CF wing can be painted to match like the bonnet on the gt3RS. one could order that bonnet, mirrors from the gt3 RS and put them on i bet.

i heard to day one dealer would take an order 10 off window for an 04 gt2.

 

Do you guys get discount to RRP on new cars through Porsche NA or are they run as demonstrators and then sold with the $10k off list once they've got a few miles on them? Have heard of a couple of 03 GT2s being sold in the UK at ÂŁ95k ish, but discounts (if any) on a new model only ever seem to be on the basis of ramping up the value of any trade-in. The dealers here seem to be happy to sit on GT2s rather than deflate the market - helpful if you've already got one, but not quite so good if you're looking.

 

Hey, look, upgrade your GT2 mirrors and wing to 2004 spec for only ÂŁ16.99 a sheet. Cool.



When you've just got to have the latest model...

I'm interested to see that some articles mention that there are also brake and suspension upgrades for the 2004 model, but I haven't found any specifics on this. Surely they're not intending changing PCCB?

 

As posted by Gert...

04' GT3 wheels :

Front : 8,5x18 ET40 : 11.3 kg (24.86 lb)
Rear : 11x18 ET63 : 12.4kg (27.28 lb)

 

thank you sloth,
gert's weights are approximate btw, he had 25/32 for gt2's, they actually weigh 28/33.

fozzy,
i'm glad you are as amused as I with the carbon look, my gt2 friend Josh [he bought my first seal grey gt2 from me] suugests doing the entire car with fake carbon stickers.

fozzy on price:

our dealers are still buried in gt2's, market really weak. you can get brand new undriven 03's for 17K US under window [the window stocker retail price].

the dealer i described would take my order for an 04 at 10k us less than window which is now 193. i believe they raised the price to 193 as dealer invoice [or cost from porsche] is 170 or so. at 180's they only had 10 in profit, at 193 they 20 poetential profit and they are discounting it back.

 

here is the press release again, the real CF wing comes black only if you specify that. the carbon look comes regardless -- altho' if they had brains they would offer carbon look delete as an option

Stuttgart. Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG, of Stuttgart, Germany has taken a further step forward in its current model offensive. This most powerful version of the 911 now has even higher performance and is the sixth launch this year, following the 911 GT3, Carrera 4S Cabriolet, 911 Turbo Cabriolet, GT3 RS and the 40th anniversary 911 model. The 911 GT2 available when the 2004 model year starts has a power output of 483 bhp (355 kW), an increase of 21 hp (15 kW) on the previous model, making it even more athletic and faster. The GT2 will be available from Porsche Centers from October on.

The increase in performance has been achieved by detailed improvements to the electronic engine management maps, yielding an increase of 20 Nm in maximum torque to 640 Nm between 3,500 rpm and 4,500 rpm. With a power-to-weight ratio of 4.06 kilograms per kilowatt, it now takes the rear-wheel drive GT2 only 4 seconds to accelerate from a standstill to 100 km/h and only 12.5 seconds from 0 to 200 km/h. Its maximum speed is 319 km/h, making the GT2 for the 2004 model year 4 km/h faster than its predecessor. Its exhaust emission values are similar to those of the 911 Turbo and it complies easily with the stringent D4 standards. These are equivalent to the EURO 4 standard test limits that will not become mandatory until January 1, 2005. As a matter of course, the GT2 also satisfies the US LEV standard.

Extreme sports-car performance was a clear priority when this powerful turbocharged model was developed. This is why, in addition to the power output increase, the front and rear suspension has been optimized as well, with modified springs/shock absorbers and brake system. The car now has even more sensitive four-channel ABS for effective anti-lock braking.

The boldly styled, aerodynamically advanced rear wing is available in unpainted carbon fiber upon request. It weighs 2.8 kilograms less and is standard on the Clubsport version. The door mirror housings and air output slats in the front apron panel feature a carbon look as part of this equipment package.

The 2004 GT2 generation sets itself apart with the new GT3-style wheels, which are 8.5 inches wide at the front and 12 inches at the rear. They are shod with size 235/40 R 18 tires at the front and 315/30 R 18 at the rear.

The new GT2 also comes with the “Porsche Ceramic Composite Brake” (PCCB) system as standard. The ceramic brake disks weigh 50 percent less than similarly sized metal disks, thus reducing the car’s unsprung weight by some 18 kilograms. “PCCB” disks are available as an optional extra for the 911 Turbo, GT3 (with naturally aspirated engine) and Carrera 4S.

The list price for the 911 GT2 will be 159,100 Euro (excluding VAT and country-specific requirements). The selling price to the customer will be 184,674 Euro including VAT in Germany and 191,700 US $ (plus tax) in the US.

 

LOL. Maybe they're saving that for the 'limited edition' 2006 GT2 (production figures as yet to be decided, depending on demand) - 499 BHP (...must save that 500BHP hurdle for when sales slow down again....) and full carbon-fibre effect bodywork. Now there's one for the laptop and Photoshop on a slow afternoon.

Cynicism is a wonderful thing.

The discounting is interesting - UK Porsche dealers would rather chop off an arm than discount to list. Never heard of it happening.