1st gear rev limiter question
1st gear rev limiter question
When I floor the GT2 in first gear it seems to hit the rev limiter at about 6200 not 6800. If i run it up easy in 1st it goes till 6800. In the other gears 2-4th it hits at 6800. What's happening? Is the tach not catching up to the motor? Has anybody experienced this ? thanks for the help. carl
Re: Different Rev Limit in 1st gear
Originally posted by Garey Cooper
The rev limit for first gear is lower than in the higher gears. And, I think this is a good thing! I've noticed it several times.
The rev limit for first gear is lower than in the higher gears. And, I think this is a good thing! I've noticed it several times.
The problem with 1st gear is that the actual engine RPM and the analog cockpit RPM will not read the same when operating at or near WOT. The actual engine RPM is where the limiter is, and the cockpit analog gauge will lag considerably in 1st...so much that the engine is at redline when the tach reads 6000-6200 rpm. The rest of the gears don't create this problem.
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Re: Re: Different Rev Limit in 1st gear
Originally posted by Dock (Atlanta)
In a 6-speed the limiter is the same in all of the gears.
The problem with 1st gear is that the actual engine RPM and the analog cockpit RPM will not read the same when operating at or near WOT. The actual engine RPM is where the limiter is, and the cockpit analog gauge will lag considerably in 1st...so much that the engine is at redline when the tach reads 6000-6200 rpm. The rest of the gears don't create this problem.
In a 6-speed the limiter is the same in all of the gears.
The problem with 1st gear is that the actual engine RPM and the analog cockpit RPM will not read the same when operating at or near WOT. The actual engine RPM is where the limiter is, and the cockpit analog gauge will lag considerably in 1st...so much that the engine is at redline when the tach reads 6000-6200 rpm. The rest of the gears don't create this problem.
Re: Re: Re: Different Rev Limit in 1st gear
Originally posted by MKW
And if your car is chipped , the rev 6250 rpm limiter is sometimes hit when the slow-poke tach reads 5600-5800 rpm in first gear !
And if your car is chipped , the rev 6250 rpm limiter is sometimes hit when the slow-poke tach reads 5600-5800 rpm in first gear !
I've seen 6400 rpm at WOT in 1st on a friend's Stage 2 without any limiter action.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Different Rev Limit in 1st gear
Originally posted by Ruiner
The rev-limiter is ~6750 and redline is 6500 in the 6spds.
The rev-limiter is ~6750 and redline is 6500 in the 6spds.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Different Rev Limit in 1st gear
Originally posted by Dock (Atlanta)
The GIAC chip raises the redline, so it's easier to get more rpm on the tach prior to the engine's limiter.
I've seen 6400 rpm at WOT in 1st on a friend's Stage 2 without any limiter action.
The GIAC chip raises the redline, so it's easier to get more rpm on the tach prior to the engine's limiter.
I've seen 6400 rpm at WOT in 1st on a friend's Stage 2 without any limiter action.
Not interested in floating a valve in a car that is so short to begin with in 1ST gear - I prefer to keep the redline where it is stock. Change the gears, not the redline if you want more MPH in first gear .
Last edited by MKW; Oct 12, 2004 at 01:19 AM.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Different Rev Limit in 1st gear
Originally posted by MKW
Then what your friend's engine is really revving to and banging against is probably 7000 rpm or so , following this " lagging tach " thread .
Then what your friend's engine is really revving to and banging against is probably 7000 rpm or so , following this " lagging tach " thread .
Originally posted by cjv
The ECU limits first to 5900 rpm's. You see a little more because of the momentum getting there. If the redline was 6750 in first you would be up over 7100.
The ECU limits first to 5900 rpm's. You see a little more because of the momentum getting there. If the redline was 6750 in first you would be up over 7100.
We all drove our cars slowly enough in first gear crawl to know that the limiter does allow 6700 rpm in that gear. Then someone said there are two ECU limits in first , depending on torque management .
So someone like Porsche PhD or Sol , what's the real deal ?





