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Originally Posted by tvr-4
Why wouldn't the aftermarket warranty cover a stock motor?

I'm sure they will question it, but to imply that they will deny it in MOST of the cases is simply inaccurate. Correct me if i am reading you wrong.

I know several people that had their engines replaced under aftermarket warranty, including two that were a 996 C2 car and a E46 M3.
Please let me know someone who had an aftermarket warranty cover a 996tt motor. I will be happy for one...a 996tt motor is 30 k and its not the same cost as a 996 c2 or an M3 motor.
 
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Originally Posted by turbolag
I own a Evo IX and ran my buddies 996TT with a exhaust and I beat it on low boost....

I highly dought a stock 996TT will trap 118 there might be some factory freaks out there but not all....

I'm in Skokie....
Car and driver and several mag's did it...do a google search. Btw evo's can be very fast and i dont doubt that. all i am saying is my car when stock pulled on my friends m3 by 3 cars steadly till 130.

Evo's are light and they hook well...
 
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Originally Posted by turbolag
I own a Evo IX and ran my buddies 996TT with a exhaust and I beat it on low boost....

I highly dought a stock 996TT will trap 118 there might be some factory freaks out there but not all....

I'm in Skokie....
What mods on your EVO? I have definitely seen some sick EVO's... and I doubt your EVO is stock if it's walking a 996TT...
 
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Originally Posted by vbmw335
where in chicago are you at? I can show you what a stock 996tt will do to the new M3..How do i know ? I raced my friends car when i was stock several times. In fact my tuned 335i pulled like 2 cars every single time.

I do agree with Heavychevy...its a more rewarding car to drive out of the box. Just want to give the credit where its due.
I agree, not a drivers race at all unless the M3 driver is significantly better than the TT driver. It's your race to lose in the TT. I've seen a stock 3800 lb (w/ driver) TT cab trap 114 which is what most E92's will trap on the high end. The TT is hands down faster, even the non X-50.

And even a clown should be able to run mid 12's in a TT while it will take a very good driver to run that in the M3. I give the TT a significant advantage on the road course too.
 
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Originally Posted by heavychevy
I agree, not a drivers race at all unless the M3 driver is significantly better than the TT driver. It's your race to lose in the TT. I've seen a stock 3800 lb (w/ driver) TT cab trap 114 which is what most E92's will trap on the high end. The TT is hands down faster, even the non X-50.

And even a clown should be able to run mid 12's in a TT while it will take a very good driver to run that in the M3. I give the TT a significant advantage on the road course too.
EXACTLY... i love M3's... many of my friends drive them.. but they aren't walking TT's if the driver has any clue what they are doing. A flash would make it unfair...
 
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hmmm. another controversy?
Originally Posted by mdj09
Does the e92 m3 have the same performance as a stock 996 turbo? I know they have the same amount of horsepower.
 
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Originally Posted by vbmw335
Please let me know someone who had an aftermarket warranty cover a 996tt motor. I will be happy for one...a 996tt motor is 30 k and its not the same cost as a 996 c2 or an M3 motor.
So, how many 996TT owners do you know of that have the aftermarket warranty, have made the claim on the blown motor, and got denied?

Either way, it's a moot point
 
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Originally Posted by jhuang25
What mods on your EVO? I have definitely seen some sick EVO's... and I doubt your EVO is stock if it's walking a 996TT...
Full bolt-on stock turbo Evo IX tuned for 23psi and I beat a 996TT from a second gear roll while I was on 20psi (low boost).... Which is why I don't think any regular 996TT will trap 118...
 

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_a6IsVijWw that 996 only had exhaust at that time of race. But then again wicked mike could pwn anyone in any car.. or so the legend says.
 

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Originally Posted by s2000_s4_996TT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_a6IsVijWw that 996 only had exhaust at that time of race. But then again wicked mike could pwn anyone in any car.. or so the legend says.
Very crappy footage....

Neither cars are stock.....

From a dig its obvious the 996 will win....
 
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Originally Posted by turbolag
Full bolt-on stock turbo Evo IX tuned for 23psi and I beat a 996TT from a second gear roll while I was on 20psi (low boost).... Which is why I don't think any regular 996TT will trap 118...
118 is the top end and has been done before, but many will go 115-116 and quite a few 117's. The X-50's will run 118 no sweat.

Even still all faster than typical E92's. Probably about 2-3 mph on the same night. And BMW's suck at launching so there you have it.
 
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Originally Posted by tvr-4
So, how many 996TT owners do you know of that have the aftermarket warranty, have made the claim on the blown motor, and got denied?

Either way, it's a moot point
I know atleast one local car (996 tt x50) who was in a situation . he had a intermediate shaft issue and got denied so he dumped the car in a auction.

I have personally been denied coverage on my car for an RMS issue. they claim its a pre existing condition. I could go to small claims court...but not worth my time.

I had to do the clutch so when its out i would change the $20 seal anyway.

My point is they are beyond ridiculous when it comes to issues above 2k at a single time. I just cant see them paying for a blown motor.

I am actually thinking of getting my refund back prorated. Then throw that 2k in the bank and if something fails it will be enough to fix. These cars have very few known problem areas.
 
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why debate this ...bring me a e92 m3 stock . i will have my friends 996tt bone stock race you. We are local lets see what's up...its all friendly.

Btw do you know Mitch he has one of the fastest evo's think he lives in NW burbs ...we raced him several times on my friends 335i.
 
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Both cars are great, but remember you are compairing a car that came out in 01 to a car that just got released. The M3 offers more techno gadgets and where as the 996tt is a little outdated. The new M3 however is not as raw feeling as the 996tt. The e92 M3 is very heavy and bulky. Its very water down compaired what I consider the best "m" the e36. The tuning potential on the 996tt is much greater then the e92 m3. Both cars are legends in their own right.
 
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Originally Posted by vbmw335
I know atleast one local car (996 tt x50) who was in a situation . he had a intermediate shaft issue and got denied so he dumped the car in a auction.

I have personally been denied coverage on my car for an RMS issue. they claim its a pre existing condition. I could go to small claims court...but not worth my time.

I had to do the clutch so when its out i would change the $20 seal anyway.

My point is they are beyond ridiculous when it comes to issues above 2k at a single time. I just cant see them paying for a blown motor.

I am actually thinking of getting my refund back prorated. Then throw that 2k in the bank and if something fails it will be enough to fix. These cars have very few known problem areas.
Ok, that's fair!
 


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