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Predictions: tiptronic GT28"alpha" vs 6-speed K24/18g

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Old Jun 18, 2009 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by vbmw335
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We raced from 45 mph , I started in 2nd gear and Tiptronic car shifted manually. The results ....until shutoff we were dead even , when i shifted to 5th gear i started slowly puling away from the tip car...but stopped the race then.
Come on guys, please no Tip bashing. and congrats to the 18g!

Even a moron knows the gear ratio on the Tip is not matching up with a 6speed. At high speed, a 6speed crushes a Tip easily. To make this fair, these two cars should run 1/4 mile drag race.

Like another 6speeder said, this is a race of turbos, and should be run between Tip to Tip or 6speed to 6speed, with different turbos.

One thing that I noticed was the Tip was shifting manually; most experience Tip drivers know that it is best to be in D/Auto mode when street racing.
 
Old Jun 18, 2009 | 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by vbmw335
Maybe true, But the power made to wheels wont change will it? But agree his shifts might get more faster...but i thought a Tip can shift faster than a 6 speed ..My point is a good 6 speed driver should take a tip car...now if its a DSG...its a different story.

The tip car also shifts at 6500 rpms and my car shifts at 7000 rpms, so i think a TCU remap is also needed to go faster and hold power.
Please don't think me wrong, tips do need more power than 6's, at least we are more heavy than you.

If tip can shift faster, we can catch you up a little bit during shifting.

Todd at Proto can make tip shift at 6800rpm or more, that can buy some benefit too.
 
Old Jun 18, 2009 | 07:55 AM
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Tip is no F1 gearbox, but it shifts quite fast. It is the gear ratio, not the gear shifting that slows down the Tip. (of course, plus the 200 extra lbs of tranny)
 

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Old Jun 18, 2009 | 08:20 AM
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After some seat time now, I'll bet if you can measure the shift time of a Tip, a good shifting manual driver is very close, if not as fast or faster...
 
Old Jun 18, 2009 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by MY996TT
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Tip is no F1 gearbox, but it shifts quite fast. It is the gear ratio, not the gear shifting that slows down the Tip. (of course, plus the 200 extra lbs of tranny)
Yes, of course. I am not saying tip can shift as fast as F1 or DSG. I just say upgraded torque converter can make it shifting faster than factory's.
The extra benefit is, you won't miss a shift. I am not Schumi, I know for sure
 
Old Jun 18, 2009 | 03:03 PM
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Think about sequential shifter like the ones on RSR's, now that will change the whole ball game.
 
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Originally Posted by chenshan
Please don't think me wrong, tips do need more power than 6's, at least we are more heavy than you.

If tip can shift faster, we can catch you up a little bit during shifting.

Todd at Proto can make tip shift at 6800rpm or more, that can buy some benefit too.
Hey chenshan

We got the last map from Todd K ( same as yours ) on tip 18g also...Here some vidz

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aq0qgYBY0Qo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUe0U1VZJsU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOGhL1JN_Rk

We also beat

Shelby GT500 w/FordRacing SC 620rwhp
HKS570 GT-R
Tuned 570rwhp ZR1
many bolt-ons/cammed C6Z
plenty of Bolt-ons C6Z
LPE 660 H/C C6Z ( The one of the vid above )
Built 440ci +600rwhp C6ZO6

We raced until 280-290kmh....I noticed that built 440ci c6z and ZR1 r the fastest we ran neck2neck until 250-260kmh then we start the pull them HARD!!!
 
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Good videos but I did not hear the Camaro punch hard at all. Did it have a Supercharger, if yes what psi?
 
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Originally Posted by art4iza
Good videos but I did not hear the Camaro punch hard at all. Did it have a Supercharger, if yes what psi?
The Camaro has H/C and 100 shots of nitrous
 
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why do ppl buy sports cars with auto trannies again? I don't get it.....
 
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what's H/C? Hot Cocoa?
 
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With only heads/cams and no blower, not a fair race then.

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head/cams
 
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With only heads/cams and no blower, not a fair race then.

oh, I think a 6L motor with 100 shot versus a 3.6L TT is fair.
 
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Originally Posted by Shotcaller
Hey chenshan

We got the last map from Todd K ( same as yours ) on tip 18g also...Here some vidz

We also beat

Shelby GT500 w/FordRacing SC 620rwhp
HKS570 GT-R
Tuned 570rwhp ZR1
many bolt-ons/cammed C6Z
plenty of Bolt-ons C6Z
LPE 660 H/C C6Z ( The one of the vid above )
Built 440ci +600rwhp C6ZO6

We raced until 280-290kmh....I noticed that built 440ci c6z and ZR1 r the fastest we ran neck2neck until 250-260kmh then we start the pull them HARD!!!
WOW~~~~ You are fast!!!

It's nice to see someone happy with the programe I worked with. Todd and I over tested this programe for so many times. I wish I can have a huge improvement after Durametic upgrade his programe.

Keep me informed
 


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