996 Turbo / GT2 Turbo discussion on previous model 2000-2005 Porsche 911 Twin Turbo and 911 GT2.

DIY pressure/boost leak test rig w/pics

Thread Tools
 
Rating: Thread Rating: 2 votes, 5.00 average.
 
Old Aug 2, 2011 | 12:25 AM
  #76  
markski@markskituning's Avatar
Basic Sponsor
20 Year Member
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 9,730
From: CHICAGO
Rep Power: 604
markski@markskituning Is a GOD !markski@markskituning Is a GOD !markski@markskituning Is a GOD !markski@markskituning Is a GOD !markski@markskituning Is a GOD !markski@markskituning Is a GOD !markski@markskituning Is a GOD !markski@markskituning Is a GOD !markski@markskituning Is a GOD !markski@markskituning Is a GOD !markski@markskituning Is a GOD !
Originally Posted by aroonkl
I have same problem. When I tested at 25psi, air leaked a lot via oil cap. Its noise was loud and should cover any small leak I might have. It was pretty doable at 15-18psi. How do your guy do at 25psi?
if you rotate the motor a few times you might get lucky to get the valves to shut... otherwise 15 to 18 is decent... another way is to do it at the TB.... that will hold firm 30 if you like.... then work your way down to the turbos.. this is how we do it hardcore lol
 
__________________

2001 996TT 3.6L and stock ECU
9.66
seconds @ 147.76 mph 1/4 mile
click to view
160 mph @ 9.77 seconds in 1/4 mile click to view
50% OFF ON PORSCHE ECU TUNING BLACK FRIDAY SPECIAL




Old Aug 2, 2011 | 05:14 AM
  #77  
ttboost's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 6,453
From: CT
Rep Power: 439
ttboost Is a GOD !ttboost Is a GOD !ttboost Is a GOD !ttboost Is a GOD !ttboost Is a GOD !ttboost Is a GOD !ttboost Is a GOD !ttboost Is a GOD !ttboost Is a GOD !ttboost Is a GOD !ttboost Is a GOD !
Originally Posted by FlyingGuy
back from the past....

when setting the air attachment in place, are you guys just drilling a hole, putting the fitting in and epoxy sealing it?

or are you tapping a thread into it, and screwing in the attachment?

i saw one person that had a nut on the inside of the attachment, and also used threading tape, but i havent seen anyone actually state that you tap threads into the plastic piece...?

I threaded mine...holds all the pressure you can put in...in my case it will hold 120psi...
 
Old Aug 30, 2011 | 02:33 PM
  #78  
claasclever's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 18
From: Germany
Rep Power: 0
claasclever is infamous around these parts
Pressure leaking in throttlebody area??

Hello, my name is Claas and i am posting from Germany. I have a modified
996 turbo that was running at 1,4bar max boost. Since a few weeks i am missing
0,2 bar. Everything is working just fine, except the lack of boost und power.

I found the thread an was very enthusiastic. I build a MAF plug right away and
started to look for a leak.

What happend was, that i heard the air leaking out as it seems thru the throttlebody somehow.

When you put pressure on the system, will it stay there and just leak slowly?

Touching all the tubes, fittings and connections around the area, did not change the frequency of the escaping air.

I am more active in a german forum, but still hope that i will find some help here.

http://www.elferteam.de/Forums/index...pic=40323&st=0
 
Old Jul 15, 2012 | 02:48 PM
  #79  
Edward Jones's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 79
From: San Francisco
Rep Power: 0
Edward Jones is infamous around these parts
Originally Posted by colorinc
well i after 5 days at the cottage i was starting to get a little antsy ... so i gave my good friend todd k a call and asked him if wanted to test for boost leaks how would you go about doing it ... well after a few minutes of talking here is what we came up with 2-2inch pvc couplers 2-2 inch plugs some epoxy(used to seal the air fitting into the pvc) and an air fitting total cost $16 at lowes.....well i think of myself as a bit meticulous when i work on my car thinking that i would not find any leaks... i was wrong i found 5 huge leaks it leaked so bad that it emptied my aircompressor in 15 seconds... after an hour of so tracking them down its as tight as a drum.. i would advise doing this to your setup.. the car is a whole differnt beast i can finnaly keep my boost on top.. the only bad side 4th gear 1.5 bar the clutch starts to slip a bit around 5000rpm ill probably have to turn it down a tad let me know if you have any questions

ps

i plugged the tester into an air compressor regulated at 25 lbs the 2 rubber couplers mount onto the turbo air inlets.. you can hear all the air leaks and you rub around the hoses and clamps with your hand and when you get close the pitch changes

tim
sorry guys I'm lost. Can i make a boost tester that fits into the big black Y pipe you see when you open rear engine lid??
 
Old Jul 15, 2012 | 06:42 PM
  #80  
UrbanHotrod's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 3,727
From: TORONTO/CLEARWATER
Rep Power: 329
UrbanHotrod Is a GOD !UrbanHotrod Is a GOD !UrbanHotrod Is a GOD !UrbanHotrod Is a GOD !UrbanHotrod Is a GOD !UrbanHotrod Is a GOD !UrbanHotrod Is a GOD !UrbanHotrod Is a GOD !UrbanHotrod Is a GOD !UrbanHotrod Is a GOD !UrbanHotrod Is a GOD !
Originally Posted by Edward Jones
Originally Posted by colorinc
well i after 5 days at the cottage i was starting to get a little antsy ... so i gave my good friend todd k a call and asked him if wanted to test for boost leaks how would you go about doing it ... well after a few minutes of talking here is what we came up with 2-2inch pvc couplers 2-2 inch plugs some epoxy(used to seal the air fitting into the pvc) and an air fitting total cost $16 at lowes.....well i think of myself as a bit meticulous when i work on my car thinking that i would not find any leaks... i was wrong i found 5 huge leaks it leaked so bad that it emptied my aircompressor in 15 seconds... after an hour of so tracking them down its as tight as a drum.. i would advise doing this to your setup.. the car is a whole differnt beast i can finnaly keep my boost on top.. the only bad side 4th gear 1.5 bar the clutch starts to slip a bit around 5000rpm ill probably have to turn it down a tad let me know if you have any questions

ps

i plugged the tester into an air compressor regulated at 25 lbs the 2 rubber couplers mount onto the turbo air inlets.. you can hear all the air leaks and you rub around the hoses and clamps with your hand and when you get close the pitch changes

tim
sorry guys I'm lost. Can i make a boost tester that fits into the big black Y pipe you see when you open rear engine lid??

You can contact Marski. He has them premade forsale.

911tuning.com
 
Old Jul 17, 2012 | 03:15 PM
  #81  
Edward Jones's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 79
From: San Francisco
Rep Power: 0
Edward Jones is infamous around these parts
can some one tell me if I can test for boost leaks at black y pipe that sits on top of motor? Thanks
 
Old Jun 12, 2013 | 12:48 PM
  #82  
dhahlen's Avatar
Registered User
10 Year Member
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,958
From: Arizona
Rep Power: 166
dhahlen Is a GOD !dhahlen Is a GOD !dhahlen Is a GOD !dhahlen Is a GOD !dhahlen Is a GOD !dhahlen Is a GOD !dhahlen Is a GOD !dhahlen Is a GOD !dhahlen Is a GOD !dhahlen Is a GOD !dhahlen Is a GOD !
I've done this method a few times with the same rig, made one for the air filter inlet as well.

My question - do you always have to pressurize the driver side turbo?

There is a line that goes to the intake of the driver turbo, if I pressurize from the passenger turbo, that line just blows out air. It has a nipple that connects to the inlet pipe when installed.

Also, I hear air "flowing" through the system, but if it was holding pressure I'm assuming I wouldn't hear anything at all.

My initial tests found a few leaks, which were fixed, using the soap/water method. I haven't found any additional leaks, but I still hear that air flow sound.

THoughts?
 
Old Jun 12, 2013 | 02:20 PM
  #83  
ttboost's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 6,453
From: CT
Rep Power: 439
ttboost Is a GOD !ttboost Is a GOD !ttboost Is a GOD !ttboost Is a GOD !ttboost Is a GOD !ttboost Is a GOD !ttboost Is a GOD !ttboost Is a GOD !ttboost Is a GOD !ttboost Is a GOD !ttboost Is a GOD !
I think you will always hear air being pushed throught the throttle body and through the cylinder heads, etc...
 
Old Jun 12, 2013 | 03:41 PM
  #84  
32krazy!'s Avatar
Banned
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 5,551
From: tn
Rep Power: 628
32krazy! Is a GOD !32krazy! Is a GOD !32krazy! Is a GOD !32krazy! Is a GOD !32krazy! Is a GOD !32krazy! Is a GOD !32krazy! Is a GOD !32krazy! Is a GOD !32krazy! Is a GOD !32krazy! Is a GOD !32krazy! Is a GOD !
Originally Posted by dhahlen
I've done this method a few times with the same rig, made one for the air filter inlet as well.

My question - do you always have to pressurize the driver side turbo?

There is a line that goes to the intake of the driver turbo, if I pressurize from the passenger turbo, that line just blows out air. It has a nipple that connects to the inlet pipe when installed.

Also, I hear air "flowing" through the system, but if it was holding pressure I'm assuming I wouldn't hear anything at all.

My initial tests found a few leaks, which were fixed, using the soap/water method. I haven't found any additional leaks, but I still hear that air flow sound.

THoughts?
my oil cap was leaking air. tie wrapped it and it helped
 
Old Jun 12, 2013 | 04:06 PM
  #85  
dhahlen's Avatar
Registered User
10 Year Member
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,958
From: Arizona
Rep Power: 166
dhahlen Is a GOD !dhahlen Is a GOD !dhahlen Is a GOD !dhahlen Is a GOD !dhahlen Is a GOD !dhahlen Is a GOD !dhahlen Is a GOD !dhahlen Is a GOD !dhahlen Is a GOD !dhahlen Is a GOD !dhahlen Is a GOD !
I'll try the oil cap once it's all put back together
 
Old Jun 12, 2013 | 10:39 PM
  #86  
markski@markskituning's Avatar
Basic Sponsor
20 Year Member
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 9,730
From: CHICAGO
Rep Power: 604
markski@markskituning Is a GOD !markski@markskituning Is a GOD !markski@markskituning Is a GOD !markski@markskituning Is a GOD !markski@markskituning Is a GOD !markski@markskituning Is a GOD !markski@markskituning Is a GOD !markski@markskituning Is a GOD !markski@markskituning Is a GOD !markski@markskituning Is a GOD !markski@markskituning Is a GOD !
Originally Posted by dhahlen
There is a line that goes to the intake of the driver turbo, if I pressurize from the passenger turbo, that line just blows out air. It has a nipple that connects to the inlet pipe when installed.



THoughts?
THAT MEANS YOUR CHECK VALVE IS BUSTED AND IS A HUGE LEAK...
order part number 996-110-135-70
 
__________________

2001 996TT 3.6L and stock ECU
9.66
seconds @ 147.76 mph 1/4 mile
click to view
160 mph @ 9.77 seconds in 1/4 mile click to view
50% OFF ON PORSCHE ECU TUNING BLACK FRIDAY SPECIAL





Last edited by markski@markskituning; Jun 13, 2013 at 08:07 AM.
Old Jun 13, 2013 | 09:35 AM
  #87  
dhahlen's Avatar
Registered User
10 Year Member
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,958
From: Arizona
Rep Power: 166
dhahlen Is a GOD !dhahlen Is a GOD !dhahlen Is a GOD !dhahlen Is a GOD !dhahlen Is a GOD !dhahlen Is a GOD !dhahlen Is a GOD !dhahlen Is a GOD !dhahlen Is a GOD !dhahlen Is a GOD !dhahlen Is a GOD !
Originally Posted by MARKSKI@911tuning
THAT MEANS YOUR CHECK VALVE IS BUSTED AND IS A HUGE LEAK...
order part number 996-110-135-70
Woot! Thanks Boss!
 
Old Jun 13, 2013 | 11:40 AM
  #88  
markski@markskituning's Avatar
Basic Sponsor
20 Year Member
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 9,730
From: CHICAGO
Rep Power: 604
markski@markskituning Is a GOD !markski@markskituning Is a GOD !markski@markskituning Is a GOD !markski@markskituning Is a GOD !markski@markskituning Is a GOD !markski@markskituning Is a GOD !markski@markskituning Is a GOD !markski@markskituning Is a GOD !markski@markskituning Is a GOD !markski@markskituning Is a GOD !markski@markskituning Is a GOD !
Originally Posted by dhahlen
Woot! Thanks Boss!
Once You fix this one the others will be more apparent.
 
Old Jun 15, 2013 | 05:48 AM
  #89  
King James's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 613
From: Toronto
Rep Power: 67
King James has a reputation beyond reputeKing James has a reputation beyond reputeKing James has a reputation beyond reputeKing James has a reputation beyond reputeKing James has a reputation beyond reputeKing James has a reputation beyond reputeKing James has a reputation beyond reputeKing James has a reputation beyond reputeKing James has a reputation beyond reputeKing James has a reputation beyond reputeKing James has a reputation beyond repute
So I built one of the 3.5" intake rigs from home depot. I can see why people use ones on the turbos directly now. My biggest leak was the big hose that goes to the inlet of the turbo itself but this is vacuum and not normally pressurized. With that it was a bit annoying to find other leaks as it made some noise, well that and the oil cap which I got sealed. If you build one yourself, tape around the 3.5" piece so there is some traction for the pipe and tighten both clamps well, I had one pop out

My car held 20psi pretty well, I could charge up the tank to just 20psi and open the valve fully and it took well over 60 seconds before all the air was gone. It mostly leaked from the turbo intake pipe on the driver side, if I could have sealed that it would have held for a lot longer. Found one leak on the intake manifold passenger side where the two worm clamps are, tighten down to fix.

I could hear a little bit of hissing at the diverter valves but couldn't isolate it exactly. Maybe the valves leaking?
 
Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	pressure02.jpg
Views:	291
Size:	312.0 KB
ID:	252422   Click image for larger version

Name:	pressure03.jpg
Views:	250
Size:	292.8 KB
ID:	252423  
Attached Images  

Last edited by King James; Jun 15, 2013 at 05:50 AM.
Old Jun 15, 2013 | 11:30 AM
  #90  
UrbanHotrod's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 3,727
From: TORONTO/CLEARWATER
Rep Power: 329
UrbanHotrod Is a GOD !UrbanHotrod Is a GOD !UrbanHotrod Is a GOD !UrbanHotrod Is a GOD !UrbanHotrod Is a GOD !UrbanHotrod Is a GOD !UrbanHotrod Is a GOD !UrbanHotrod Is a GOD !UrbanHotrod Is a GOD !UrbanHotrod Is a GOD !UrbanHotrod Is a GOD !
Originally Posted by King James
So I built one of the 3.5" intake rigs from home depot. I can see why people use ones on the turbos directly now. My biggest leak was the big hose that goes to the inlet of the turbo itself but this is vacuum and not normally pressurized. With that it was a bit annoying to find other leaks as it made some noise, well that and the oil cap which I got sealed. If you build one yourself, tape around the 3.5" piece so there is some traction for the pipe and tighten both clamps well, I had one pop out

My car held 20psi pretty well, I could charge up the tank to just 20psi and open the valve fully and it took well over 60 seconds before all the air was gone. It mostly leaked from the turbo intake pipe on the driver side, if I could have sealed that it would have held for a lot longer. Found one leak on the intake manifold passenger side where the two worm clamps are, tighten down to fix.

I could hear a little bit of hissing at the diverter valves but couldn't isolate it exactly. Maybe the valves leaking?
Good work Jim on sealing everything up and knowing your good to go.
What tune are you using?
 


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 2 votes, 5.00 average.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:14 PM.