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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 02:42 PM
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I"ve been to the last 3 events: what I noticed are:
Stock 500hp ZO6's are in the early 170's.
1000hp Porsche's & Ford GT's are just barely breaking 200mph
Stands to reason that 750hp will get you about 180-185 depending on weight.

Also, some days you have a generous tail wind, some days you don't: but there's always a 20-25mph (min) wind: either tail or head which will add/subtract 10-ish MPH off your runs assuming you're in the 170-180mph range. Mark
 
Old Oct 7, 2009 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ttboost
Thanks Paulie. I realize there are gonna be variables such as wind, traction, weight, gearing and of course power. Obviouly I'm wondering what my 550-600whp car will run? Lets say it runs 190, how much more power will it take to run 195? 200?
200mph = 850whp in a full weight 996

edit edit edit... Dr. Jitsus only needs 550whp in his GT2
 
Old Oct 7, 2009 | 02:46 PM
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I know of a GT2 GIAC stg 4 on race file with bad headwind ran ~176 (~550 rwhp) a couple of years ago. Keep in mind Mike a GT2 will be slower in a mile event due to greater downforce created by the larger spoiler.

Ben check with Steve on the MPH for the Carrera GT,it was Jeff's Carrera.
 
Old Oct 7, 2009 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by PALETTE
200mph = 850whp in a full weight 996

edit edit edit... Dr. Jitsus only needs 550whp in his GT2

Hell he will beat the busa that went 242 at the last event.
 
Old Oct 7, 2009 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by PAULIEWALNUTS
I know of a GT2 GIAC stg 4 on race file with bad headwind ran ~176 (~550 rwhp) a couple of years ago. Keep in mind Mike a GT2 will be slower in a mile event due to greater downforce created by the larger spoiler.

Ben check with Steve on the MPH for the Carrera GT,it was Jeff's Carrera.
Paulie,

Your numbers were correct ..... I'll get the other numbers tonight.

Originally Posted by PALETTE
200mph = 850whp in a full weight 996

edit edit edit... Dr. Jitsus only needs 550whp in his GT2
I think it can be done on less than 850 Corey!
 
Old Oct 7, 2009 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Porschesolution
I"ve been to the last 3 events: what I noticed are:
Stock 500hp ZO6's are in the early 170's.
1000hp Porsche's & Ford GT's are just barely breaking 200mph
Stands to reason that 750hp will get you about 180-185 depending on weight.

Also, some days you have a generous tail wind, some days you don't: but there's always a 20-25mph (min) wind: either tail or head which will add/subtract 10-ish MPH off your runs assuming you're in the 170-180mph range. Mark
I think weather greatly effects these numbers as you said.

Joe's Turbo which is I believe was around 920hp did 231 last time. Alex's Turbo which is also around the 1000hp (presumably lower considering Joe's power) mark did 220ish. Blackhorseturbo did 192 and he only had 550whp. Its so hard to really nail it down.

Joe correct me if my figures are wrong on the power ..... I don't want to publish bad info.
 

Last edited by bmoores; Oct 7, 2009 at 03:21 PM. Reason: corrected power figures for Joe's Beast.
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Originally Posted by bmoores
paulie,

your numbers were correct ..... I'll get the other numbers tonight.



I think it can be done on less than 850 corey!
i hope you can bro!! Keep us upated though.
 
Old Oct 7, 2009 | 02:55 PM
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I've been praying to the car gods for a tailwind for the last 3 weeks!!
 
Old Oct 7, 2009 | 02:56 PM
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So it stands to reason a light (3300lbs) car with 550 whp, and no wind, could go 190-195. I know Todd went 192ish, not sure of conditions. Maybe he can weigh in... so to speak.
 
Old Oct 7, 2009 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by bmoores
I think weather greatly effects these numbers as you said.

Joe's Turbo which is I believe was around 1100hp did 231 last time. Alex's Turbo which is also around the 1000hp mark did 220ish. Blackhorseturbo did 192 and he only had 550whp. Its so hard to really nail it down.

Joe correct me if my figures are wrong on the power ..... I don't want to publish bad info.

Joe's car was at 920, I believe..keep in mind that these Hp numbers you are using are not a good reference number. These numbers vary depending on what Dyno, temp, tune...etc This is why dyno numbers are just good to see where the car is making power & have a base run before the mods to see the increase.


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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by topgun
Joe's car was at 920, I believe..keep in mind that these Hp numbers you are using are not a good reference number. These numbers vary depending on what Dyno, temp, tune...etc This is why dyno numbers are just good to see where the car is making power & have a base run before the mods to see the increase.


Tom

Great point Tom. I will edit my initial post. Look forward to seeing Top Gun at the mile.
 
Old Oct 7, 2009 | 05:17 PM
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The number I have heard more than once on a 996TT is 750RWHP to crack the 200mph barrier.

Todd ran 192 and Marty (Woodtster) ran 191. I believe both cars are over 600RWHP.
 
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Yea, when I ran 192 this earlier year, (with my failing tranny) I was making 525 at 1.3 bar. Which is the boost I ran during that pass and 189Mph at 1.1 bar on the other pass. BUT, that day was PERFECT with a 15 mph tail wind.

Originally Posted by AtomicZ
The number I have heard more than once on a 996TT is 750RWHP to crack the 200mph barrier.

Todd ran 192 and Marty (Woodtster) ran 191. I believe both cars are over 600RWHP.
 

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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by VividRacingTX
Yea, when I ran 192 this earlier year, with my failing tranny I was making 525 at 1.3 bar which is the boost I ran during that pass and 189 at 1.1 bar one the other pass. BUT, that day was PERFECT with a 15 mph tail wind.
Your 1/4 mile trap speeds suggest over 600RWHP. A tail wind never hurts at the mile.
 
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Originally Posted by AtomicZ
Your 1/4 mile trap speeds suggest over 600RWHP. A tail wind never hurts at the mile.
Yes, I've added more power since the last Mile.
 


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