I have spent the last 20+ years going to the track... I have been a race school instructor for both NASA and Green Flag here in the San Francisco Bay Area, have completed the Bondurant school, the Jim Russell racing program, the Keith Code Superbike school, the Jim Russell Shifter Kart school and many more. I do approximately 15 - 25 Car track days a year and 8 -10 Motorcycle track days, not to mention the thousands of Shifter Kart laps I put in every year...

I think some conclusions are being jumped to here, that are entirely unwarranted...

I am quite sure that no-one here ever goes over the speed limit and has never, ever opened up their Porsche on a deserted stretch of Freeway or Interstate to see if their car is faster than a buddies... I'm also sure that none of us has ever even contemplated getting into the gas hard away from a stoplight either...

What is it that they say about casting the first stone?

 

hey guys it was just a thought. grew up in santa cruz ca. we had a spot called 4lanes it was up the coast a bit we painted a stripe across the road and raced. it was great fun but we were dumb kids, no wrecks no deaths no errors. it was great fun i have to think those days are gone now and we all have to be more careful!!! or maybe i'm just gettin old my 2 cents steve

 

80shilling----you are correct, I'm not without guilt!

Guess what got me was the first sentence in the original post.

I applaud you for your diligence and determination to be a more skilled 2 wheel & 4 wheel pilot. Lived in the Bay Area (Danville) many moons ago and there are a couple of great tracks in the Bay Area, Sears Point and Laguna.

If my conclusion was erroneously and impetuously reached, I apoligize.

However, I do wish more people would take it to the track-------drag strip or road course-----and have their fun safely.

Nuf said!

Cheers!

 

Danville is one of those places where a TON of great Cars live.. Blackhawk museum is a fun place for us Car nuts to spend a few hours gawking at amazing vehicles... Plus, a lot of real enthusiasts with the means to purse their hobby means that at the weekends when the sun is out, you see a lot of VERY nice toys on the roads...

What a civilized Forum this is...

 

I stopped reading after you said you installed (and then paid to tune) K24's w/ a stock impellor. You left at least 80 whp on the table for an $800 savings Einstien.

 

Trust me,
I spent at least a month weighing the numbers of whether or not to go with 18G compressor wheels. When you step it up to that, you also pay an extra $1000 for the actual job, then another several hundred for injectors (to do a worthwhile 18G setup), and then another $1000-2000 for a good clutch setup... Cause a stock clutch wont hold the extra 80whp. Bear in mind i'm still running a stock clutch, and its doing very well. When you go for the added power, you also have to factor in another few grand just for that stuff alone... Not to mention my tune from FVD was super cheap (since the previous owner already had it on there) compared to the price of getting any other shops to do it for $1200+.

Not trying to argue and say they arent worth it, cause trust me, they definitely are... But my entire setup cost MAYBE $3k to do, for an extra 100awhp+, rather than $6k for an additional 80awhp on top . If i ever feel the need for that added power then we'll yank the turbos off and do it right this go around, but for now being able to beat most non-liter bikes is plenty for me.

Plus im in my lower 20s, so everything i do is on a budget


To the others,
Thanks for the kind words... And yes, I wholy agree that it is the safest, most wise thing to do this kind of thing on the track... but situations like i stated in my original post have a way of cropping up and catching me by surprise, and i bought in to the temptation. Bear in mind all of these runs took place during the wee hours of the night (or early morning depending on how you look at it), so no other cars were really present during the time of our playful behavior.

 

All you need to do is send the pressure plate in to Sachs for an inexpensive modification. Yes, injectors make a big diff. but are not necessary in order to benefit tremendously from the 18g.

 

[quote=Renegades;2497619]Trust me,
I spent at least a month weighing the numbers of whether or not to go with 18G compressor wheels. When you step it up to that, you also pay an extra $1000 for the actual job, then another several hundred for injectors (to do a worthwhile 18G setup), and then another $1000-2000 for a good clutch setup... Cause a stock clutch wont hold the extra 80whp. Bear in mind i'm still running a stock clutch, and its doing very well. When you go for the added power, you also have to factor in another few grand just for that stuff alone... Not to mention my tune from FVD was super cheap (since the previous owner already had it on there) compared to the price of getting any other shops to do it for $1200+.

Not trying to argue and say they arent worth it, cause trust me, they definitely are... But my entire setup cost MAYBE $3k to do, for an extra 100awhp+, rather than $6k for an additional 80awhp on top . If i ever feel the need for that added power then we'll yank the turbos off and do it right this go around, but for now being able to beat most non-liter bikes is plenty for me.

Plus im in my lower 20s, so everything i do is on a budget

Following that logic, you would then prefer sex w/ a 6 as opposed to a 10 because you were afraid your Johnson would get too sore

 

[quote=Dr_jitsu;2497828]
Is Johnson another one of your boy toys?

 

[quote=Dr_jitsu;2497828 Following that logic, you would then prefer sex w/ a 6 as opposed to a 10 because you were afraid your Johnson would get too sore[/quote]

 

If i were going through the hassle, i'd just put in an entirely new clutch setup built for that power, rather than a modification of the OEM setup. The same applies for the injectors; if we're already in there, id do the injectors as well. No use in half-assing a project that would have the sole intent of creating the greatest amount of power from K24/18Gs.

But again, thats for another day, another time.

Regardless of my logic,
The setup is certainly not a "6" in those terms, your views are too generous when it comes to the Turbo. I'd rank it a "4" at best with all i've experienced...

But nevertheless, it does the trick around here. I'm not the type to compare cars and mods to sex but if we had to go there then i'll just say my history of "exotics" is old news. You aged guys and your silly analogies, sheesh.

 

While everyone here can justify xyz...Dr. Jitsu's Johnson habits excluded of course as I've never met him and rumor has it he is a seriously talented martial artist....if you want to race other cars safely and responsibly, the track is the right place. The public is the issue....and they have a funny way of making a deserted street not so deserted in the most unpredictable ways.

I don't want to sound preachy...but DE or a drag track is the way to go.... Sure, I have driven 2 miles an hour over the limit because of my new Sumitomo's never wearing out, but when I really drive fast I am on a track. Once you do it, the street seems silly to some degree.

Be safe!

(flame away...I just think racing on the street is dangerous......seen some seriuously hurt people in the ED from it...)

 

good story
thanks

 

Very Nice

 

I love these kill posts! The back in forth between the racers and the preachers is great. I myself am a reformed racer turned preacher (look up some of my prior sermons), but as many of us may experience, I too fall off the wagon once in a while (ala Jimmy Swaggart) and go over the speed limit.

I've found that one possible solution to the racing itch when you can't go to the track is to pick on really slow cars. My GT2 can destroy a Camry before I even get to 40MPH!!

So that's it guys-when you see that old lady in the Accord next to you at the light, look over, rev the engine (add a lurch for effect) and when that light turns green, let that launch control rip! She won't know what hit her!

I can't wait to read the posts:

"Hyundai Accent kill in Boston"
"VW bug (turbo) kill in Florida"
"Toyota Corolla owned big time in Dallas"

And for you two wheeled junkies:

"Vespa completely manhandled in SFO"