B&M question....
#31
TP, I probably have said this before, but it bears repeating. You are a tremendous wealth of knowledge with this stuff, and I, for one, appreciate your contributions to this (and other) boards. Amazing stuff, man. Keep it coming.
#33
Originally posted by Tool Pants
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If someone had a problem with the B&M and the problem went away with the Porsche unit then the only guess I have is that the B&M was not put in properly or adjusted properly or their driving style changed.
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If someone had a problem with the B&M and the problem went away with the Porsche unit then the only guess I have is that the B&M was not put in properly or adjusted properly or their driving style changed.
i just came back from the dealer( loeber motors)... i saw preliminary write ups about the shifter... these are intercompany from main office. the tech is looking for me for the original memo with full explanation... among which states that anyone with "B&M" shifter in the car must be reported and thus voids transmission warranties if any in the future). I read it myself 2 months ago. I'm not kidding nor joking.. nor am I promoting any product. I liked the b&M shifter.. except at the track when I had to go 100% from 1st to second. also, the pics above do not show the fact that one is shorter then the other...i know I had both.
my problem went away... the senior tech is all over this... we spent 1 hour looking for the memo... we only found preliminary comments... but i will definately make sure we find it.
anyone had both the b&M shifter and the porshe short shifter?
after spending $50k on aftermarket products... i think that common sense will tell you that an extra $480 will not hurt my pocket for preventive purposes... just like the 5 bar fuel pressure regulator I have... it doesnt make my car faster or better.... it just gives me a peace of mind that I'm not running too lean...(with a level 4 upgrade).
I had the b&M.. i liked it a lot... but I feel safer with the new one... and I dont hesitate going hard into 2nd like I used too. it seems like most of the guys here are partial to one product cause they only had one of the two in question.
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2001 996TT 3.6L and stock ECU
9.66 seconds @ 147.76 mph 1/4 mile click to view
160 mph @ 9.77 seconds in 1/4 mile click to view
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Last edited by markski@markskituning; 11-12-2004 at 07:15 AM.
#34
I think you need some proof.
And how in the world does a mechanic or his/her employing dealership report a B&M shift to PCNA. Pick up the phone and call??? Who. What telephone number? How is this info communicated to PCNA.
And how in the world does a mechanic or his/her employing dealership report a B&M shift to PCNA. Pick up the phone and call??? Who. What telephone number? How is this info communicated to PCNA.
#36
Originally posted by Tool Pants
I think you need some proof.
And how in the world does a mechanic or his/her employing dealership report a B&M shift to PCNA. Pick up the phone and call??? Who. What telephone number? How is this info communicated to PCNA.
I think you need some proof.
And how in the world does a mechanic or his/her employing dealership report a B&M shift to PCNA. Pick up the phone and call??? Who. What telephone number? How is this info communicated to PCNA.
I will get the memo... we looked for the original but had no luck today... found other preliminary notes about the short shifters... give me a little time.... i will make my best to get it.
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2001 996TT 3.6L and stock ECU
9.66 seconds @ 147.76 mph 1/4 mile click to view
160 mph @ 9.77 seconds in 1/4 mile click to view
50% OFF ON PORSCHE ECU TUNING BLACK FRIDAY SPECIAL
2001 996TT 3.6L and stock ECU
9.66 seconds @ 147.76 mph 1/4 mile click to view
160 mph @ 9.77 seconds in 1/4 mile click to view
50% OFF ON PORSCHE ECU TUNING BLACK FRIDAY SPECIAL
#37
Originally posted by Tool Pants
And how in the world does a mechanic or his/her employing dealership report a B&M shift to PCNA. Pick up the phone and call??? Who. What telephone number? How is this info communicated to PCNA.
And how in the world does a mechanic or his/her employing dealership report a B&M shift to PCNA. Pick up the phone and call??? Who. What telephone number? How is this info communicated to PCNA.
#38
"I doubt, however, that a tech who sees the 19" wheel, the B&M, or other mod, calls the Porsche Tech Line to log it."
i agree... but its true and probably happens at some dealerships.
I recall leaving my car for some work and had to make sure it was not on a day when the district manager was not in town... was told quietly by the service advisor. there is nothing stock about my car.... rims, turbos, suspension.. etc.
i agree... but its true and probably happens at some dealerships.
I recall leaving my car for some work and had to make sure it was not on a day when the district manager was not in town... was told quietly by the service advisor. there is nothing stock about my car.... rims, turbos, suspension.. etc.
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2001 996TT 3.6L and stock ECU
9.66 seconds @ 147.76 mph 1/4 mile click to view
160 mph @ 9.77 seconds in 1/4 mile click to view
50% OFF ON PORSCHE ECU TUNING BLACK FRIDAY SPECIAL
2001 996TT 3.6L and stock ECU
9.66 seconds @ 147.76 mph 1/4 mile click to view
160 mph @ 9.77 seconds in 1/4 mile click to view
50% OFF ON PORSCHE ECU TUNING BLACK FRIDAY SPECIAL
#39
Wow some of you guys are more stubborn than I even am
Look guys, what Markski is saying is 100% true. Before I worked for FVD I had the B&M, my car missed and grinded 2nd gear all the time. Also I confirmed with two dealers that there was a buletin about the shifter. They report it by putting it in your file and use it in the future as Eric said. Once I began working for FVD I put our shifter in and this 2nd gear trouble went away completely. I am on 15,000 miles on this shifter now and (knock on wood) never missed a gear or had a problem.
As for the Porsche shifter...IT IS NOT THE SAME!!!! I do not know the exact differences, but I have been told by many people (including dealers) there are differences. Why would you guys make comments to Markski about buying one... A lousy $500 shifter is a lot better than a $14,000+ tranny no? We were the ones that replace Markski's 1st tranny due to the B&M so trust me he is not lying.
Evan
Look guys, what Markski is saying is 100% true. Before I worked for FVD I had the B&M, my car missed and grinded 2nd gear all the time. Also I confirmed with two dealers that there was a buletin about the shifter. They report it by putting it in your file and use it in the future as Eric said. Once I began working for FVD I put our shifter in and this 2nd gear trouble went away completely. I am on 15,000 miles on this shifter now and (knock on wood) never missed a gear or had a problem.
As for the Porsche shifter...IT IS NOT THE SAME!!!! I do not know the exact differences, but I have been told by many people (including dealers) there are differences. Why would you guys make comments to Markski about buying one... A lousy $500 shifter is a lot better than a $14,000+ tranny no? We were the ones that replace Markski's 1st tranny due to the B&M so trust me he is not lying.
Evan
#40
Originally posted by AMG ETR
Also I confirmed with two dealers that there was a buletin about the shifter. They report it by putting it in your file and use it in the future as Eric said. Evan
Also I confirmed with two dealers that there was a buletin about the shifter. They report it by putting it in your file and use it in the future as Eric said. Evan
Making a note in the service file at you local dealer is not how this thread started out.
#41
Originally posted by Tool Pants
So, where is a copy of his bulletin, memo, whatever? Should end the saga.
Making a note in the service file at you local dealer is not how this thread started out.
So, where is a copy of his bulletin, memo, whatever? Should end the saga.
Making a note in the service file at you local dealer is not how this thread started out.
Evan
PS-Reporting it means marking it when they see it, and actually telling Porsche if/when somthing goes wrong...thats how REPORTING it works..
#42
i'm working on it.... its been over 2 months since the memo... we went thure a few hundred pages today.... I found preliminary comments about a"aftermarket shifter"... but Im looking for the "b&M" specific memo.
might take me a few days... I did not think this would go this far... plus Im wasting a senior technitians $39/hour time... so please be patient.
might take me a few days... I did not think this would go this far... plus Im wasting a senior technitians $39/hour time... so please be patient.
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2001 996TT 3.6L and stock ECU
9.66 seconds @ 147.76 mph 1/4 mile click to view
160 mph @ 9.77 seconds in 1/4 mile click to view
50% OFF ON PORSCHE ECU TUNING BLACK FRIDAY SPECIAL
2001 996TT 3.6L and stock ECU
9.66 seconds @ 147.76 mph 1/4 mile click to view
160 mph @ 9.77 seconds in 1/4 mile click to view
50% OFF ON PORSCHE ECU TUNING BLACK FRIDAY SPECIAL
#45
Originally posted by AMG ETR
Wow some of you guys are more stubborn than I even am
Wow some of you guys are more stubborn than I even am
Originally posted by AMG ETR
As for the Porsche shifter...IT IS NOT THE SAME!!!! I do not know the exact differences, but I have been told by many people (including dealers) there are differences.
As for the Porsche shifter...IT IS NOT THE SAME!!!! I do not know the exact differences, but I have been told by many people (including dealers) there are differences.
Originally posted by AMG ETR
Why would you guys make comments to Markski about buying one...
Why would you guys make comments to Markski about buying one...