996 Turbo / GT2 Turbo discussion on previous model 2000-2005 Porsche 911 Twin Turbo and 911 GT2.

What is the difference b/t Agency Power IC, and other much more expensive ones?

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Old Aug 8, 2010 | 03:00 PM
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Old Aug 8, 2010 | 08:21 PM
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good info all the way around. So I know how hard my car runs in winter when temps are in the 30's. Mark, are the intake temp numbers wrong on your testing. I am not sure that the data would be as meaningful at those temps. Or maybe it is even more meaningful? since if you see a diff at that low of a temp difference, they must really be good.
 
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Originally Posted by Prche951
Mark, are the intake temp numbers wrong on your testing. I am not sure that the data would be as meaningful at those temps. Or maybe it is even more meaningful? since if you see a diff at that low of a temp difference, they must really be good.
I did the test in the winter one day apart. No particular reason other then we do have winter hear and I had no choice. I also ran some dynos as well...
here is a video of it... 18g, stock Wgs car running 1.1bar, our exhaust, and our ICs...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vv9RV60AUk
 
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Old Aug 9, 2010 | 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by MARKSKI@911tuning
I did the test in the winter one day apart. No particular reason other then we do have winter hear and I had no choice. I also ran some dynos as well...
here is a video of it... 18g, stock Wgs car running 1.1bar, our exhaust, and our ICs...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vv9RV60AUk
ok, makes sense. Just wonder what the performance difference would be during summer temps. Seems like you might even see a much better difference, since the stockers choke bad in summer.
 
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There seems to be two issues with the stock IC,
1. The end tanks
2. The flow, Heat dispersion of the core (correct me if I´m wrong).
Would it be any improvement to weld new better designed end tanks on stock 997 gt2 IC cores considered the possible negative open flow path design or is it just waste of time and money? It will probably not be near as good as aftermarket purposely designed IC, but it’s just a thought I’ve had.
 
Old Aug 9, 2010 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by bbywu
I think the most useful information are two calculations: thermal efficiency and pressure efficiency. IATs alone are helpful, but the number itself is influenced by other factors. Similarly, "x% larger core" "x% better flow" aren't terribly helpful.

Thermal Efficiency (percent) = 100 x (Tin - Tout) / (Tin - Ambient)

...will give us an idea of how well the core does. Similarly, pressure efficiency will tell us how well the intercooler's flow parameters are.
What affects the AIT's that cant be duplicated back to back same day??

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Originally Posted by Mr swed
There seems to be two issues with the stock IC,
1. The end tanks
2. The flow, Heat dispersion of the core (correct me if I´m wrong).
Would it be any improvement to weld new better designed end tanks on stock 997 gt2 IC cores considered the possible negative open flow path design or is it just waste of time and money? It will probably not be near as good as aftermarket purposely designed IC, but it’s just a thought I’ve had.
What would actually work is taking 2 cores and welding them together with 1 tank.. Its no doubt the stock cores are efficient for what we are asking them to do at higher boost levels but i am not sure if 2 cores would fit..

Mike
 
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