Just one thing I want to mention, if the GT2 has adjustable anti-swaybars already which I believe it does, naturally you don't need to change those swaybars to a different kind at this point, maybe never. You could however, as suggested above, try to set them one step softer rear, or go one step harder on the front ones, but that's usually only the medicine if you're suffering constant oversteer (not only corner entry).

Sorry about overlooking that, was doing a bunch of things not thinking about that GT2 comes with adjustable anti swaybars oem...

I'd join at Laguna if the date fits.

A word of experience: A lot of "suspension people" (with no clue about Porsches) like to set rear sway-bars really stiff, or recommend customers to do so, thinking it will stabilize the big weight in the rear. It makes for good drifting and sure it will feel like body control up til some point of driving, but it's not very good for rear end grip when the driver steps up to a decently fast driving level.

 

Thanks, I am glad that you posted this! After I read your last post to me about sway bars....I honestly thought wow are you serious, what is this guy on about???? Are you going to retract that penguin suit without shoes remark

As I knew I had adjustable as OEM, it's a GT2 not a TT and almost everyone who I have spoken to in Europe track scene say very few who have GT2s change to stiffer sway bars, most run on the max setting and fine tune everything else, but most of these guys are out of my league and have much different tracks to race on than me.


I have 4 holes to use, the car came on the stiffest setting, so I have already backed it off one hole to see what that will do, then fine tune rebound and bump etc.

It seems this will be the solution to the current problem.

It also looks like I will be in LA from the around the 10th of March

 

If you bring a bottle of 16 year old Lagavulin with you, you can have the Master suite and the Girlfriend and I will take the couch..

 

Quite right.. I hear of people running 1,100 lb springs in the rear... That's just way too stiff to get the Car to work.. Also, it's fine if you have a wing the size of a small Buick on the rear, but you HAVE to have accompanying aero up front, or all you are doing is seriously unbalancing the Car.

 

Looks good.. That is the rear swaybar, right? Check the front and see where it is set... Try either the softest or second from softest setting.. I'm pretty sure your Car will feel much more balanced after that change. I have found that the hardest setting in the rear is pretty much unusable..

I have RSR bars and they have 5 holes.. (Like Spinal Tap, I wish my swaybar went to 11... )

Let us know how it goes.

L.A. in March, eh.. Sounds like you can spare a day or two to visit us then.

Cheers

 

Hook a Brother up... Awesome

 

A stiff rear spring with more aero up front is actually more imbalance. Stiffening the rear already adds more grip to front, more aero is only going to exaggerate that effect.

Several people are running over 1000-1100 lb springs on the rear with no problems, they control the weight of heavy street cars better. Street cars on sticky tires make a laughing stock of 700-800 lbs rear springs. You will body roll all over the place if you are not running full stiff, I know because I've seen pictures of it happening on my car.

Also there is nothing wrong with stiff rear sways on a 911 which tends to understeer at the limit. Something even the RSR's have had serious problems resolving over the years. Some pro teams even run without a front sway to maximize the effect using only the front springs to control the body roll.

The rules of racing are that there are no rules, I garauntee you cannot find the same setup on every winning Porsche out there in every series, in some series they will run softest springs possible, in others, they will run the stiffest they can put on there up to 1700 lbs. The package as a whole will determine what works best, and that includes weight, aero, rake, ride height etc etc.

 

You guys are killing me

How many master suites do you have

 

Hey.. being Scottish, I take my Whisky SERIOUSLY... A 16 year old Lagavulin is a thing of rare beauty, substance and is a national treasure as far as I am concerned... Any Man that brings me a bottle (or two) of that liquid gold is ALWAYS going to be welcome in my House.

http://www.scotchwhisky.com/focus/lagavulin.htm

I have two master suites actually, so it's not as if I would have to sleep on the floor or anything drastic.

Seriously though, you are welcome to stay at my place.. We are in a great part of San Francisco and best of all... it's free...

OK.. so how far off topic are we now?

 

Every thread needs to take a break, it's called intermission

The 21yo and the 25yo sound special also.....

How funny, found this from a guy who was reviewing the whisky."The 16yo has long been to Lagavulin what the 911 was to Porsche but we’re more than happy to see more variants coming out, especially since those are more Turbos than Boxters in our opinion"

Must be a good whisky for any Porsche enthusiast!

 

Now that's what i'm talkin about!!!... I'm writing this as I am pissed as a fart right now (4:00 am here, just crawled in the door, obscene amount of whisky)... Saint & Shilling your both sound as fek guys, we should hook up... you guys are well sound.

 

HAHAHAHAHA!!! Scotland on a Friday night.. The highest per capita alcohol consumption on the planet (by a fair margin I think).. You my Lad are, steaming, legless and guttered..

For our esteemed Amrican colleagues, by "pissed" he doesn't mean that he's angry or upset.. just sh1tfaced drunk...

I just gave you some Rep points for the sheer entertainment value of your post and also for still being conscious enough to type...

 

Ohhhh Graham... my head is bursting ... wife not impressed ... a day on the sofa me thinks

 

Besides the PDF that Saint posted and I printed out, do you guys know any good reading material about dialing in the suspension? I have 2 way Motons and have upgraded all the various control arms and toe steer arms and sway bars. I use R compound tires and the car is 90% track/10% street. I'm trying to wrap my head around bump and rebound and how the adjustments affect the car. I've read "How to Make Your Car Handle" 3 times and that has clarified a lot of things but the bump and rebound is still not coming into clear focus yet. Any ideas?

 

I haven't got a lick of sympathy for you Laddie...