996 Turbo / GT2 Turbo discussion on previous model 2000-2005 Porsche 911 Twin Turbo and 911 GT2.

TESTED - Boost Logic Intercoolers and stock Turbo ICs

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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr_jitsu
So in the real world, if you are doing back to back roll ons or have been running for a while (usually the case when I meet someone who wants to have a go) good IC's make more than a 70 hp difference. Pretty much what my "real world" experience/butt dyno has told me.
Potentially, yes.

The fact that at speed the porsche design helps significantly over what we see on the dyno adds even more into the mix. However, I did numerous runs(in a closed circuit environment, of course) that factored the 100mph airflow into the equation, and the results are similar(based on fueling) to what I saw on the dyno. Flow is obviously also a factor when you are over 550 whp. You have to be able to get the air in/out of the intercoolers efficiently.


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Old Jan 9, 2010 | 04:53 PM
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Very nice! I do find it interesting when folks try to claim that a larger intercooler will somehow make the boost lag noticeably - when you look at the size of an IC compared to the sheer volume of air moving out of a turbo the assertion is pretty amusing.

Since I suspected you datalogged this all to death... any chance of posting graphs of IAT? Pretty please? Would be interesting to see just how fast the OEM units heatsoak and if the BL units even do so hehe...
 
Old Jan 9, 2010 | 11:00 PM
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Heya BLK...

I do have some datalogs, but it's in an unsharable format so I need to convert it by rpm and load and manually put it on the preverbial paper.

I kinda posted what i saw during the dyno on the first post though... On the street the heat soak was not nearly as noticable as I couldn't make numerous pulls to 150mph without risk. What can I tell ya... I got cautious in my old age



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Originally Posted by Dr_jitsu
So in the real world, if you are doing back to back roll ons or have been running for a while (usually the case when I meet someone who wants to have a go) good IC's make more than a 70 hp difference. Pretty much what my "real world" experience/butt dyno has told me.

This equation will not be accurate for you Sean,you went from EVOMS IC's to Proto's IC's.I do not think you will see the change as much as stock IC's to Proto's or EVOMS IC's.
 
Old Jan 10, 2010 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by PAULIEWALNUTS
This equation will not be accurate for you Sean,you went from EVOMS IC's to Proto's IC's.I do not think you will see the change as much as stock IC's to Proto's or EVOMS IC's.
Depends on what he had vs what he went with. If he had those "stock replacements", then he might have picked up 30-40 more. If they were already 4.5 inch IC's and he went to 4.5" ICs from another manufacturer, I doubt he would see much gain. End tank design and core being the only variables. I would say that the best way to measure the anticipated gain is to go back to the dyno and make a pull. If you retuned the car, you can ask the tuner for the changes that were made to the fueling side of things and estimate the bhp increase.
Dyno is easier though

How's your car doing with the new battery Paulie?

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After the battery was fixed I went to pick up the car & while driving home I noticed there was not much boost(0.8 bar). Instant u-turn to shop & Akram discovered a broken wastegate rod. All fixed now & I should be picking it up Monday.
Thanks for asking Justin.I would think your car should sell fast,I have seen it in person & it is set-up very nicely.GLWS
 
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I was talking about my initial switch from stock to Evo 3.5's. IAT's hardly budge at all w/ the 5 inchers but I have not driven the car in the heat.
 
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Justin is selling his car already? Oh come on man - we need you testing parts and figuring out ECU stuffs!
 
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Justin is selling his car already? Oh come on man - we need you testing parts and figuring out ECU stuffs!
We still have my car to do that on

Remember I also have the Tuning Concepts Standalone also
 
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Justine, do you have any pics of the Boost Logic IC's? I'd like to see how they compare to other units out there.
 
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Justine, do you have any pics of the Boost Logic IC's? I'd like to see how they compare to other units out there.
ask and you shall receive... these are the 4.5inch.... if you want to see the 6 inchers, let me know

http://boostlogic.com/extrapictures/...0Porsche%20IC/

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Justin is selling his car already? Oh come on man - we need you testing parts and figuring out ECU stuffs!
Don't worry!!!

I am not leaving I haven't had a Supra in 6 years, but I still provide data for that platform. THe data I have gathered on the Porsche over the last 13 months is pretty extensive and I am still sorting through all of it. We will continue to release and develop products(some are already even developed) and stay tuned for some cool new stuff!

As Powell mentioned, the development continues on his car I predict 1200whp...

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ask and you shall receive... these are the 4.5inch.... if you want to see the 6 inchers, let me know

http://boostlogic.com/extrapictures/...0Porsche%20IC/

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Like the looks but you REALLY need a Y-pipe!
 
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Like the looks but you REALLY need a Y-pipe!
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