Agreed. However assuming the job goes smoothly and takes less time then the "book" suggests, the customers usually end up paying more.

I wonder if those shops that strictly adhere to "book" time would stick to that cost if the job ends up taking double the time the book suggests due to some unforeseen issue.

 

It all depends on the level of their experience with P cars and how they charge out the labor, for a good workshop I believe 4/6 Hrs is the minimum and maximum time they should charge.

FYI, I finished installing a set of KW Competition 3 ways on my GT2, a month ago in a little over 5 Hrs (no wheel alignment or ride height adjustment) with the help of a friend of mine who worked for Mercedes.

See post in 6Speed……. https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/996-turbo-gt2/197267-new-gt2-kw-competition-3-way-suspension-installed.html

This was the first time we had done this on a Porsche (and wanted to make sure we did it right), it was done with Jacks and Wheel stands (no Lift).

If we had to do it again (now more knowledgeable), and it was a straight swap out. I know it would take us an hour each corner and another half hour to set-up/pack up, total 4/4.5 Hrs, 5hrs if ride height was done also, but it is in no means a race.

Not sure if what you are doing is the same as what we did or if there is a difference between a TT and a GT2 but hope this helps

 

For what it's worth, I was quoted $1,500 to install PSS10s, front and rear sways, motor and trans mounts and alignment (not corner balanced).

 

I didn't read the whole thread, so forgive me if this hasn't been covered...

6 hours to instal coil overs isn't out of line, in my opinion.

You're talking about having to deal with four corners of the car, plus a minimum of an alignment... you SHOULD have a corner balance done as well, if you truly want to get the most out of your suspension.

We're not just talking slapping on some coil overs and dropping the car down. A porsche is a whole 'nuther animal that truly requires more attention and time in setup. Do it wrong and you'll have a horribly handling supercar... That combo can kill you.

Mike

 

It took me 3 hours never doing them before, But I did have help from boostlogics mechanic when I got stuck.
But Im awesome! thats why

 

For everytime the mechanic beats the "book", there is a time it takes longer. The "book" time is an insurance "policy" for both the mechanic and the customer. The good dealerships and larger independents are pretty fair about only charging "book" even if they go over on time. I know for a fact both my dealer (although his hourly rates are high) and my independent have eaten time wrenching on my car. It's also nice my independent will wrench on my car well after normal closing time to have it ready when promised. My dealership is also very good at getting things covered under warranty.

 

Yea, this is a bit of a sore subject with me, since I'm again looking at potentially opening up my own suspension/chassis setup and brake shop. The cost to "own and operate" an automotive specific shop isn't cheap. The insurance, the rental of the space (if you have to rent) and the cost to employ and outfit... Everytime someone puts your car up on a lift it takes time. Time = money. People seem to think that they're owed something by a shop. They are, it's called quality service. You should expect a reasonable price for labor, but if you pay $80 an hour and then find greasy hand prints on the paint, or in the interior, congrats, you just got $80 per hour. I'll gladly pay $125 per hour to get true quality and service...

Remember that the next time you ***** about the bill...

Mike