996 Turbo / GT2 Turbo discussion on previous model 2000-2005 Porsche 911 Twin Turbo and 911 GT2.

850-900whp with awd vs rwd??????????

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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 09:54 AM
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Thanks for the input guys. i just want the safest way to put down this power with out being al lover the place if thats even possible. lol
AWD. They didn't call the RWD Porsche Turbos "Widowmakers" for nothing.
 
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AWD. They didn't call the RWD Porsche Turbos "Widowmakers" for nothing.
The term "widomaker" applies to RWD porsche Turbos that have LSDs, i.e., GT2.

A 996TTwithout an LSD and the right tires will hook all day long on the street at very high power levels, without being a handful to drive like a car with an LSD is.
 
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Scott is absolutely right. My car never gets sideways with 1000+rwhp with right tire set up. It hooks in second gear on full boost.

Originally Posted by Divexxtreme
The term "widomaker" applies to RWD porsche Turbos that have LSDs, i.e., GT2.

A 996TTwithout an LSD and the right tires will hook all day long on the street at very high power levels, without being a handful to drive like a car with an LSD is.
 
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Great info guys much appreciated, my car is gonna be used to cruise and occasional hwy pulls, it might see the drag strip once a year. I have no experience with a car with so much power, im gonna have new respect for the car and need to learn to drive it again. Im gonna keep it awd and throw some r888 on the rear since i have 19's for now. The great thing is i will have the option to convert if i ever wanted to.
 
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AWD. They didn't call the RWD Porsche Turbos "Widowmakers" for nothing.
thats scary
 
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Originally Posted by Divexxtreme
The term "widomaker" applies to RWD porsche Turbos that have LSDs, i.e., GT2.

A 996TTwithout an LSD and the right tires will hook all day long on the street at very high power levels, without being a handful to drive like a car with an LSD is.

that is very interesting observation. I never thought of it that way. If you go RWD, an LSD could be more dangerous. deepblue had the built trans with an LSD but he's still awd.

do you think part of it is the weight removed from the front, sends more balance to the rear which under hard acceleration causes the front to lift and control? Where in an awd, you have enough weight in the front that it isn't an issue?
 
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Originally Posted by Prche951
that is very interesting observation. I never thought of it that way. If you go RWD, an LSD could be more dangerous. deepblue had the built trans with an LSD but he's still awd.
Ya, the problem lies with a car that has both an LSD and the weight of an engine in the rear. In a corner, if you abruptly left off, or stab the throttle...both rear tires have the tendency break loose, instead of just the inside tire.

Without an LSD, you never have this problem. A RWD TT without an LSD will probably be slower around a road course due to lift in the corners, but will be much safer on the street.

My GT2 at it's lowest boost level on 93 octane is way more of a handful than my much more powerful RWD 996TT ever was at full boost.

do you think part of it is the weight removed from the front, sends more balance to the rear which under hard acceleration causes the front to lift and control? Where in an awd, you have enough weight in the front that it isn't an issue?
If you properly corner balance the car, the weight loss up front ends up being a non-issue. The car honestly ends up feeling like a toned-down GT2.
 

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Originally Posted by Divexxtreme
Ya, the problem lies with a car that has both an LSD and the weight of an engine in the rear. In a corner, if you abruptly left off, or stab the throttle...both rear tires have the tendency break loose, instead of just the inside tire.

Without an LSD, you never have this problem. A RWD TT without an LSD will probably be slower around a road course due to lift in the corners, but will be much safer on the street.

My GT2 at it's lowest boost level on 93 octane is way more of a handful than my much more powerful RWD 996TT ever was at full boost.



If you properly corner balance the car, the weight loss up front ends up being a non-issue. The car honestly ends up feeling like a toned-down GT2.

Scott, thanks. Excellent comments on both cars and very good information to know these days.
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Originally Posted by art4iza
Scott is absolutely right. My car never gets sideways with 1000+rwhp with right tire set up. It hooks in second gear on full boost.
....one guess whose quote is below!

As you can recall, the car put down 1032whp .... the tires spin in second gear and the car going sideways until I hit third. Tried no shift as well but tires still spin at that boost level in 3rd gear. Car is violently fast and the steering wheel is extremely hard to control at this boost level.
 
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....one guess whose quote is below!

As you can recall, the car put down 1032whp .... the tires spin in second gear and the car going sideways until I hit third. Tried no shift as well but tires still spin at that boost level in 3rd gear. Car is violently fast and the steering wheel is extremely hard to control at this boost level.

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