Rob does your car have the gt2 slave conversion and I assume you have the triple plate, which vendor on here sells ATS clutch, thanks in advance.

 

Yes
I have pushed my car in many events all over Texas from Road Racing to top speed runs. The tranny is a work of art put together by G box and it has all the goodies including the ATS carbon fiber LSD just to name a few. The clutch has been wonderful thus far and it is the strongest triple they make. I dont know if it is better or worse than the other clutches I can only report that it has taken the abuse and continues to peform like day one.
Happy Easter
Robert

 

Please elaborate.

 

Wrong Materials, pieced together disc packs, etc led to this. Even had multiple discussions with Tilton engineers at the time.

First I've ever head this either, and I've spoken with both companies in depth about it on many occasions.

Ultimately it comes down to the materials and setups used. If I had a twin ceramic turned triple disc ceramic with custom aluminum flywheel and random release bearing, I probably would agree with both of these statements.

The Tilton is an expensive piece, but it's one of the few parts I've felt I got what I paid for when it came to my personal cars. After using them for Supras for many years when I got my 996tt it was the only clutch I wanted, so I personally paid for the development of a "street" option out of my own pocket, and would do it again in a heartbeat. From a vendor standpoint, we make more selling a 3K ATS carbon, 1500 Clutchmaster than we do on a Tilton clutch, however if someone came to me with a 700+ WHP 996tt and planned on drag or road racing the car on a somewhat frequent basis, I'd have no problem telling them the Tilton is the only option I'd put in my own car. It's expensive but well worth it for any high HP application (Vipers / Gallardos / Supras / etc).

 

Wow Rob

When did your car start making 1200 rwhp? What did you change and when did you dyno it with 1200 rwhp? This would be a new record right?
Jag

 

There really is NO WAY around the Tilton Honestly.. When you reach a level that you need to hold X amount of hp the only clutch that truly works is the tilton.. If you think 7k is bad for your 40k 996 or 140k 997 try to swallow 4500 for a 15k dollar Evo tilton.. It sucks but there is no substitute.. its been attempted by Exedy, Quartermaster, Os giken, carbonetic, ATS and the list goes on and on..

The clutch is very drivable, holds as much HP as you need, doesnt break your leg to depress like a dual diaphragm clutch would, is rebuildable fairly inexpensive if you dont KILL it and should be the last clutch you buy for your Porsche.. Rebuilds can cost as little as 350.00 for a triple disc.. If it slips 1x park the car.. If you drive on it, race it further youll be buying a new one or have nice bill for a rebuild.. its how they are..

 

I have the Tilton on my car for some time now... I like it...
I did have a flywheel sensor go bad on a fairly new unit.... not sure why but it did...
other then that there is no other unit out there that will hold a 9 sec. run...

I had the ATS before that... did hold 146mph at 10.0 but is simply not meant for such abuse...
mark

 

39.76 pounds of boost. I am putting in new injectors to try to break the 40 pound barrier. The largest ones available.

 

The fact is no one was using Tilton for the 996tt. We started the ball rolling and it has taken six years to perfect it to where it is today.

It is a lot easier to follow than to led. Not not to say there is anything wrong with anyone picking up on an idea and making it better.

 

Not sure what took 6 years to develop for Tilton as the clutch is the same for every car pretty much.. The hub and flywheel changes but the rest is pretty much the same technology they have been using for over 10 years..

Maybe these cars werent making the power needed to call for a tilton.. IDK

Mike

 

In 2003 we were making approx. 650 rwhp with our 996tt. We set the car up with a Tilton clutch. I didn't know anyone else using the Tilton on a 996tt at the time.

 

Breaking 40lbs of boost!!?!? Holy Fawk! I can't even imagine that. I bet with injectors that big your MPG decreases significantly eh? haha.

Sorry, I have nothing of importance to add to this thread.

 

About that time we were going 9.0 on Drag Radials using the same Tilton clutch pack that can be found in our 996tt

Whats interesting is the 996tt clutchpack is the same one found in the 996 cup cars (with the need to convert the hydraulics and get rid of the accumulator), why there was a need to reinvent the wheel and attempt to piece together a clutch pack that was inferior to what was already available and on the open market is beyond me but kudos for trying. It's quite funny that when we started using this clutch in our 996tt everyone had the impression it was junk and would never work, now some of the faster street cars on this forum swear by it. We just took a race part and with the help of Tilton engineered it to be much more streetable like we have in so many applications.

 

I invented the tilton, and 40psi before there ever were wheels to reinvent. So yeah...

 

HoustonT I do remember you stating you'd prefered to have gone Tilton after the fact of trying the OS Giken, which is also a very good clutch manufacture.

If you are street driving a high performance car and making 700+HP I feel the best solution is a tilton, you can drive it daily and race with it to with total comfort. I have a Tilton in our Shop Porsche and my personal Supra as well. The supra only makes 450rwhp and I still put a Tilton in it, because it drives better then any clutch that will hold 450rwhp.

Rebuilds are usually $400-$600 which is cheap for any clutch that can be rebuilt. Tilton's rebuilds are usually the cheapest out there.