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Old Apr 8, 2010 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Joey@fabspeed
VEGAS BAIL, I will speak with the V.P. Jay regarding the current status of the exhaust system for your 996 Turbo. I talk to Kelly @ Vegas Auto Salon on a daily basis regarding another customer's vehicle and also keep tabs with the process on your Turbo. It's been a situation from the get-go because you wanted a particular sound for your Turbo and we have been trying to accommodate to fulfill your sound preference. We went over and above our customary policy when we sent you the catbypass pipes to substitute for the sportcats which were too quiet for your taste. All products have to be paid in full when leaving our facility, Jay and I wanted to help you with your Porsche so we sent those out "on us" to assist in your decision. Now I am not aware of any refunds or charges regarding this situation, but I can say the 996 Turbo 70mm catbypass pipes are $1,075, and the sportcats retail for $1,595. A used set of sportcats will just sit on our shelf because we cannot use them for installations but Jay obviously put a $1,300 value on them, which leaves you with a $200 refund--hence we will discount the next order. Again I have been dealing with Kelly regarding Dom's Ferrari, and Jay has been dealing with Kelly regarding your Porsche, but from talking to Kelly the sound from your Porsche is now aggressive enough for your sound preference.
I don’t have a real opinion on your muffler 1 way or another. I will say that the concept of being able to quickly change stuff in and out is really COOL!
I just want you to know that is it good to see some1 finally address this thread. I don’t understand how or why people don’t buy what they know they want; then complain about it not being what they wanted?
In the end, the issue of returns is the sticky side of business and a small and or specialized company can’t pull a Wal-Mart and except every little thing that people want to return for what ever reason.
I hope the OP guy gets what he wants but I have to say that I am not sure he “ exhausted “ all his resources to get the end result he was wanting before airing his dirty laundry about a company.

Just my .02
 
Old Apr 8, 2010 | 11:54 AM
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$1100 for cat bypass pipes??? Yeesh!!!
 
Old Apr 8, 2010 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by VEGAS BAIL
nice point... at the time the GMG price was a little more than what i was gonna spend. After talking to fabspeed and explaining my preference, they said i would be very happy.

Like i said earlier on.. i am kicking myself in the butt for it now...
I wasn't trying to insult or anything, I was just curious if it was something that had been discontinued and you had to look into other options.
 
Old Apr 8, 2010 | 12:36 PM
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$1100 for cat bypass pipes??? Yeesh!!!
Our 2.5" catbypass pipes have been $950 since 2006. Our 70mm/2.75" catbypass pipes are $1,075 which is what is on the OP's 996 Turbo.
 
Old Apr 8, 2010 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by MY996TT
I don't quite understand something; if the exhaust sound is THAT important to you, why did you purchased the Fabspeed without first hearing it in person? If you know you like GMG, why went with Fabspeed?

Well said.
 
Old Apr 8, 2010 | 12:56 PM
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TBH... anyone taking somebody's advice or thinking they can just tell the sound of an exhaust system from a few youtube clips are sorely mistaken.

If you ask me both are are at fault here

If you visit Stef at Europipe, they do a try before buy and if you are not happy with it they take it back off and don't charge you a penny.
 
Old Apr 8, 2010 | 01:59 PM
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all of your points are well taken. As for both of us being at fault, i agree 100% Just wanted to voice my opinion of what i thought about the customer service...3 weeks call back.. thats all.
by no means have i ever been tryin to insult anyone....Just thought some fellow 6speeders would want to know about my experience,....
 
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Well said.

Im asking myself the same question, i guess i was just trusting the SALESMAN that was assuring me i would be happy....
 
Old Apr 8, 2010 | 02:09 PM
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man that 997 sounds good.
 
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997 hmmmmmmm thats an idea
 
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Originally Posted by Hogapalooza
I don’t have a real opinion on your muffler 1 way or another. I will say that the concept of being able to quickly change stuff in and out is really COOL!
I just want you to know that is it good to see some1 finally address this thread. I don’t understand how or why people don’t buy what they know they want; then complain about it not being what they wanted?
In the end, the issue of returns is the sticky side of business and a small and or specialized company can’t pull a Wal-Mart and except every little thing that people want to return for what ever reason.


Concur- I wouldnt say Fabspeed met/exceeded all of your expectations, but they werent "sub-par" either.
 
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Not taking any sides here, but I would like to add that for anyone considering buying an exhaust system, word of mouth description/recommendation or even Youtube clips of the exhaust in action will not be sufficient. You simply have to hear it in person, or better yet, drive it on the same roads you will encounter on a daily basis.

Years ago, I bought a $2700 titanium exhaust for the E46 M3 I had. Seemed like a lot of money at the time, but that was before I started looking at prices of mods for the Porsche. Read couple of good reviews on a M3 message board. Sounded good from the handful of Youtube clips I watched. Pulled the trigger and realized I couldn't live with the thing. I had to deal with a half a mile long uphill road during my regular commute. The thing droned in the worst possible way, no matter which gear the car was in. Had to get rid of it with the quickness and take a almost $1k hit in the process.

Anyhow, to the parties involved in this thread, hope you guys are able to reach mutually acceptable resolution.
 
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Originally Posted by VEGAS BAIL
i also forgot to tell you, i have a full setup for the cargraphic exhaust, i only put less than 3000 miles on it, I paid 4300, and sellin for like 2000. If your interested then let me know....
I'll take the cargraphic of your hands and stuff it my 02 GT2. Send me a PM. Thanks....
 
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Originally Posted by VEGAS BAIL
Nothing at all wrong with the cargraphic, but with the mods i have done since, my setup called for a more free flowing and bigger exhaust, at least thats what i was told, I really appreciate all the feedback, regardless of the opinions, just appreciate all the honesty..Thanks 6speeders
vegas bail, can you describe the cargraphic exhaust? Can you compare the sound in words to GMG ?
 



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