996 Turbo / GT2 Turbo discussion on previous model 2000-2005 Porsche 911 Twin Turbo and 911 GT2.

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Old Apr 7, 2010 | 07:51 PM
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It'd be interesting to hear the other side of the story.

Its still inexcusable however for them to wait 3 weeks to contact you again, its almost like they were trying to push you past a 30day return policy or something.

Regardless, sound is subjective, as everyone hears and interprets things differently. Each car will sound different, different mods, different tune etc., so yea you can get an idea by listening to a youtube clip, or hearing it on someone elses car, but it doesnt guarantee it will sound the same on your car.
 
Old Apr 7, 2010 | 08:00 PM
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I am curious what did you not like about the Cargraphic. I am getting ready to pull the trigger on buying the Cargraphic exhaust.
 
Old Apr 7, 2010 | 08:47 PM
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Vegas,

You probably don't want to buy a third exhaust, but we make a full 3" cross-flow system (our X-cellerator 3.0 loud version) that you may want to consider. It can be supplied with or without 100 cell cats and has the GT3-like sound that I think you are looking for...PM me for details and 6speed member pricing if you are interested. I will do my best to help you out...I didn't mention our 2.5 quiet because I think you are looking for the louder, aggressive sound of our 3.0 design.

Here is a video taken during development which will give you an idea of the sound : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvxifsO-9bk
 
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Fabspeed's customer service has always been excellent, this change must be a sign of the times. I guess the economy is catching up with them.
 
Old Apr 7, 2010 | 10:47 PM
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I am curious what did you not like about the Cargraphic. I am getting ready to pull the trigger on buying the Cargraphic exhaust.

Nothing at all wrong with the cargraphic, but with the mods i have done since, my setup called for a more free flowing and bigger exhaust, at least thats what i was told, I really appreciate all the feedback, regardless of the opinions, just appreciate all the honesty..Thanks 6speeders
 
Old Apr 7, 2010 | 10:49 PM
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I am curious what did you not like about the Cargraphic. I am getting ready to pull the trigger on buying the Cargraphic exhaust.

i also forgot to tell you, i have a full setup for the cargraphic exhaust, i only put less than 3000 miles on it, I paid 4300, and sellin for like 2000. If your interested then let me know....
 
Old Apr 8, 2010 | 06:57 AM
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Which version is it? quiet, medium, or export?
 
Old Apr 8, 2010 | 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by VEGAS BAIL
Just want to let everyone know on my experience with fabspeed, first off they took about 3 weeks just to get back to me on what i thought was gonna be a refund of some sort. I purchased the 70"maxflow exhaust with the 200 cell cats. Unfortunately when i was purchasing and explained the sound i was looking for, and was assured i would be happy with it, was completely opposite. I spoke to them and they said that they would send me the cat bypass and that would be the sound i was looking for... Obviously the price difference from what ive seen is quite a bit less with the bypass, Well the sound was better but not what i was looking for, BUT i said that i would stick with this for a bit... Its been a good three weeks since i last spoke to the Rep. from there anticipating i would get somewhat of a refund, and the answer i get today is ( and remember its been 3 weeks ive been waiting ) that the cats are used now and the price difference is 200 $ and that they will give me a good deal on the next order... Thats a bunch of bull. First off, i told them that if i had to pay a restock fee and take a little hit then thats fine but from my understanding, there is about a 2,000 $ price difference and im not happy... BUYER BEWARE, Whether you are doing business or are about to, be ready to play phone tag and get dragged along..
VEGAS BAIL, I will speak with the V.P. Jay regarding the current status of the exhaust system for your 996 Turbo. I talk to Kelly @ Vegas Auto Salon on a daily basis regarding another customer's vehicle and also keep tabs with the process on your Turbo. It's been a situation from the get-go because you wanted a particular sound for your Turbo and we have been trying to accommodate to fulfill your sound preference. We went over and above our customary policy when we sent you the catbypass pipes to substitute for the sportcats which were too quiet for your taste. All products have to be paid in full when leaving our facility, Jay and I wanted to help you with your Porsche so we sent those out "on us" to assist in your decision. Now I am not aware of any refunds or charges regarding this situation, but I can say the 996 Turbo 70mm catbypass pipes are $1,075, and the sportcats retail for $1,595. A used set of sportcats will just sit on our shelf because we cannot use them for installations but Jay obviously put a $1,300 value on them, which leaves you with a $200 refund--hence we will discount the next order. Again I have been dealing with Kelly regarding Dom's Ferrari, and Jay has been dealing with Kelly regarding your Porsche, but from talking to Kelly the sound from your Porsche is now aggressive enough for your sound preference.
 
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thats awesome that you replied,Hence the sound that you and Kelly think is aggressive enough is a bold statement. I and I repeat DO NOT think the sound is aggressive, how can you really say that... What about the three weeks of ME waiting for a return call, and if you really want to get into things, Doms FERRARI has been going through some issues with you also.... If he was to get on this forum i think there would be a major discussion on whats going on with his car.....
 
Old Apr 8, 2010 | 09:13 AM
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and you do not speak to Kelly who works at MY SHOP on a regular basis, You guys were gone for three weeks.....with no return call.....
 
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Originally Posted by carnut996
Which version is it? quiet, medium, or export?

To be honest, the receipt just says cargraphic 100 cell, for the gt700, from evolution..
 
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You heard the GMG, you liked the GMG, you bought something else? Does GMG not make that exhaust anymore?
 
Old Apr 8, 2010 | 09:42 AM
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You heard the GMG, you liked the GMG, you bought something else? Does GMG not make that exhaust anymore?

nice point... at the time the GMG price was a little more than what i was gonna spend. After talking to fabspeed and explaining my preference, they said i would be very happy.

Like i said earlier on.. i am kicking myself in the butt for it now...
 
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Which version is it? quiet, medium, or export?
I just found out what type it is . Its the super sound-export version...
 
Old Apr 8, 2010 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by VEGAS BAIL
thats awesome that you replied,Hence the sound that you and Kelly think is aggressive enough is a bold statement. I and I repeat DO NOT think the sound is aggressive, how can you really say that... What about the three weeks of ME waiting for a return call, and if you really want to get into things, Doms FERRARI has been going through some issues with you also.... If he was to get on this forum i think there would be a major discussion on whats going on with his car.....
I understand that the sound is not aggressive enough..sound is very subjective and what is loud for me can be quiet to you, and vice versa. I see both extremes from a customer with a Ver.2 "quiet" with sport cats complain about drone and then you can have a customer with catbypass and muffler bypass say it's still not loud enough. It's hard for us to judge exactly what the customer wants in respect to sound, but I know that from the beginning Kelly said you were very keen on the GMG GT2 sound. Dom's Ferrari has other issues that we are dealing with regarding a product that we offer from another company, but he is very happy with the headers/sportcats/carbon airboxes and BMC filters he purchased from us. We just developed an X-Pipe muffler bypass for the 2010 997.2 Turbo which has an incredible tone compared to the Maxflo mufflers---watch this video and tell me if the X-Pipe sounds similar to the GMG GT2 setup. At about 4:20, I have a comparison between the stock, Maxflo, and X-Pipe sound.
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