I just had a great drive with a CGT friend. I was in my Ruf Turbo R. It was very fun and interesting! Here's a few things while they're still fresh in my mind:

1. The CGT and Ruf Turbo R accelerate nearly the same, even at relatively high speeds.

2. The CGT will blow me away on the tough mountain turns. It's not even close, especially when my friend is a better driver. He'd completely loose me within a few minutes.

3. On straightaways and long sweepers, the Ruf and the CGT seemed about the same.

4. The CGT's motor seems to speed up and slow down instantly. When you blip the throttle, it seems to react instantly with no delay.

To me, the most memorable part of the CGT seemed to be its handling, more so than its acceleration.

I have some windshield video that I'll post later. Unfortunately, it didn't come out as nice as I wanted it.

 

sounds like fun!!!

how much power is your car rated at?

 

Nice...

Bill, your car would probably keep up a little better if you weren't running the stock suspension!

Your car has too much power for the stock Turbo setup.

I can attest to the acceleration of Bill's car, that fricking thing is FAST.

 

stock suspension!?!!?!?!?! are you serious???? i've always modded susp first, brakes second, THEN engine........
i think hamann is kidding...

 

GT2

I did the exact same thing. Suspension, brakes, then engine.

 

Hi Tyson. Good to hear from you! Actually, I did have Ruf fly over to do the suspension. However, I learned alot yesterday. One big thing is that I can't keep up with a CGT and GT3 around sharp turns for two reasons:

1. I don't know the limits of my car as best as some others, so I'm very conservative in the turns. With the 993 without PSM and without an expert driver (myself), I have, in the past, gotten myself into situations that I couldn't correct in time.

2. The GT3 and CGT are inherently faster cars around turns because of their lighter weight, lower center of gravity, better and bigger tires, and more modern suspension. It would take a lot to make a 993 be the same. However, I know some people that have, at great expense.

My goal is for me and my wife to learn more about our cars so we can recover if we do get ourselves in trouble. However, I think that may make us drive faster, which may not be a good thing. For example, I recall some study (I can't remember where) that says trained drivers have more accidents on the street than untrained ones. I can see how that might make sense.

I'm trying my best to get the CGT thing out of my system. I think our drive may have helped. I'm satisfied that my car can accelerate nearly the same, and somewhat satisfied that I might never take advantage of the CGT suspension setup. So, I'm not sure if the CGT would give me a much bigger thrill to own than what I have now. However, I can't deny that our cars became invisible to passerby's when the CGT was near them, although I think my CS may have given the CGT some competition in that respect.

 

Bill, I think it'd be nice to free up one of those garage spaces by consolidating the 993 and Stradale :-) That said, your Ruf is pretty damn sweet and more special in my mind than your Stradale.

PS. Where's that video?

 

Hi Ben. Video is coming soon!

I'm not sure if one kid can replace two. It seems you'd always be more busy with two, as long as both are very different.

Maybe I need a fifth space?

 

even better

 

Correction. Your friend, the better driver, blew you away in the twisties. I'd suspect he'll still blow you away handily in the turns if he was to swap car with you.

Your assessment of the CGT's price-performance reaffirms one thing, Diminishing Return, especially in the hands of a novice.

 

You are absolutely correct! A novice would not get the same thrill in a CGT than an experienced driver would.

 

Also if he puts in a better clutch adn light weight flywheel the revs will drop wayyyy faster You won't believe how heavy the stock flywheel is in the TT...

 

Here's a simulation of a Ruf accelerating behind a CGT. The simulation has been set to demonstrate acceleration from 60 to 160 MPH.

Ruf accelerating with CGT

 

I think the boys at the CHP would be impressed with how life-like the simulation looks .

But damn, I never thought a Turbo R was THAT fast.

 

you're probably right in a lot of respects but with someone who can drive the CGT, it's an extremely difficult car to keep up with when you throw turns into the mix and most other cars with similar driver capabilities. the difference in corners is more a product of drive than car for sure. in the straight, i believe bill said all the test vs. the CGT started well above zero which effectively extinquishes the weight penalties of the TT which leaves it's 540 hp at the wheels to do the talking. (out of curiousity, were there any altitude issues which would have caused the NA CGT to lose power vs. the forced air turbo?). as well, while the CGT is .10 off an Enzo to the 1/4 despite being down a couple .10s to 60, but 0-300 kph on at least one test is considerably longer for the CGT. most of this is due to aerodynamics and fairly massive downforce on the CGT at higher speeds. the car is just as, if not more, solid at 180 as it is 80 - or so i've "heard"

btw, as relates the CHP, was that shot in CA?