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Old May 27, 2010 | 06:06 PM
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Question on Pentosin Residue

Quick question - I have a very slight amount of what I would describe as seepage of Pentosin - I have a very light sheen of oil visible on the plastic covering over the clutch fluid/windshield washer fluid reservoirs, and a very small amount on the cap itself. The cap appears to be tightened all the way, and I have had zero issues common to the clutch accumulator/slave - in fact, several years back the prior owner had the accumulator replaced under warranty. Is this at all normal? I've cleaned it all up and will monitor from here.

BTW - 01 TT with 19k miles. No hardness to clutch feel before starting the car at all.

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Old May 27, 2010 | 06:18 PM
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you're going to need the slave cylinder replaced. the power steering fluid from the pump is bleeding right through the slave and back to your clutch reservoir which causes it to overfill.
 
Old May 27, 2010 | 06:25 PM
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I have the same exact problem and I'm upgrading to a GT2 clutch conversion kit.
 
Old May 27, 2010 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by amag
I have the same exact problem and I'm upgrading to a GT2 clutch conversion kit.
same happened to me. you may get a slight metallic whine if haven't already. listen for it while coasting to stop (in gear).

crappy clutch feel dirty pentosin and habitual accumulator failures i said f this and went to the gt2 kit
 
Old May 28, 2010 | 04:14 AM
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Monitor this very closely, better yet, have it taken care of immediately. You don't want a car-b-que.
 
Old May 28, 2010 | 05:49 AM
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Yes but....

First, I agree with you about the fact that the slave is "internally" leaking, so the power steering fluid is migrating to the clutch reservoir. But for about 2 months I transfer this fluid back to the steering reservoir with a syringe and everything function normally. Of course there was no external leak, just reservoir overfilling and that can be controlled.... About 50 cc of fluid every day of driving....
The only Pentosin fire I was aware of from this forum (see link) was cause by the steering pump failure (or a line) and followed by a bad advice from a mechanic, (read the link). This poor guy had a massive power steering pump failure and nobody took care of it in time.... We are talking here of a massive leak over the exhaust area with this very unfortunate result...
There is two technical service bulletin mentioning power steering system. First A307, can cause a leak due to a faulty pressure line going to the steering pump and the second the famous whistling noise #4897 cause by a vibrating pressure control valve. But there is no mention of leaks! Also a low fluid level can cause whistling noise from the pump....

Last advice , if you are replacing the slave , do the accumulator at the same time. Fail often, not expensive, and located on the slave....

https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...-last-oct.html
 
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What is the difference in feel from stock to the GT2 clutch conversion kit?
 
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Originally Posted by 2muchtime
What is the difference in feel from stock to the GT2 clutch conversion kit?
As important to me - what is the difference in cost versus just replacing the parts with stock? I think it's roughly $1k at RUF for the slave cylinder and accumulator replacement, including labor.
 
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Speeking of clutch...is the pedal supposed to be easy to operate when turning on the car?

My clutch pedal is stiff and then, after the engine is on, it becomes soft in 1-2 seconds..
 
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Originally Posted by emadelta86
Speeking of clutch...is the pedal supposed to be easy to operate when turning on the car?

My clutch pedal is stiff and then, after the engine is on, it becomes soft in 1-2 seconds..
you need an accumulator
 
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Originally Posted by pinoy911tt
you need an accumulator
Not necessarily.... If the car was shut down for a long while it is possible for the accumulator to loose his pressure. There is a test for the accumulator in the repair manual and it was corrected by Macster on Rennlist and I agree with him there is a mistake probably in translation. Here it is.

Start the car cold and let it run for 20 seconds and with the engine off depress and release the clutch pedal and count the number of times before sudden rise in pressure. The resistance must not get heavy *before* at least 25 depress/release cycles have been done.
 
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Thanks a lot for the info, I'll try that..


If my accumulator is gone, is it worth doing a GT2 slave conversion? Do I need to pull the engine out to install it?
 
Old May 29, 2010 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by emadelta86
Thanks a lot for the info, I'll try that..


If my accumulator is gone, is it worth doing a GT2 slave conversion? Do I need to pull the engine out to install it?
No need to lower the engine. You will found the complete instruction to do the slave delete here in word format: https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...ing-whine.html
 
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