Prices are set by Tial not us... Tial is very strict about this....
I have never seen a Tial A28 variance... retail on them is about $5400 and it includes all the water lines and oil adaptors... I have seen them sell for about $5200... which is about what we sell them for... if your getting different prices and they are within that range then your fine... I really do not see any benefit of redoing a brand new $5400 set of turbos to something other then what they are... there are simply other options in the Alpha series.. what's the point?

Now if you want me to take your money I sure can... I'll port and polish the housing and take lets say $1500 extra... lol maybe include some gold plated water lines fittings as well...

markski

 

Tym Switzer told me they have custom tial turbos made ones you couldn't order from tial unless you knew their exact specs meaning you could get them but youd have to know exactly which wheels they are usging which are not the off the shelf 5400$ turbos

their price was roughly 1kmore then what u stated

 

Never seen it..... possible... there are different HTA wheels available for generic garrets... We have been stuffing various compressor wheels for years in garrets... I just never seen it as a trend when it comes to A28s..

 

theres also a couple shops taking the tial turbos and modifying them for zc and other tricks that you cant just buy or get info on.

 

Alpha turbos? if so I haven't seen any concrete info on it.... sure I can do some tricks to it but I think they are just fine... Our 997 has the Tial A3076r.. its almost compete.. then 60 to 130s and 1/4... as stock as they get.... so we will see....
but if your talking about Tial garrets yes I agree... we can spend $10K or more if we want to but my question is: how much is too much and where does the law of diminishing returns come into play...

 

I just have poor man non-ball bearing Precision turbos I don't feel so cool anymore!

 

Yeah I have Neil looking into it for me...

I will post what I hear back.

 

As long as your car makes 870whp you are!!!

 

Just got off the phone with Tial and it appears that all Alpha 28 turbos are the same (mechanically)....performance will obviously vary from tune to tune.

 

From what I've been told in the past is that the Alpha series turbo uses a custom exhaust wheel since it bolts up to the standard KKK Flange. I heard about these turbos way before they came out to the market. You cannot adjust that, but like Mark said I'm sure you could clip or polish a housing, but is it really worth it? On a T3 flanged turbo you can choose your exhaust side which can help make more power here and lose some in other places. The thing with the tuners part is the amount of boost they run on the setups I almost swaped to the Alpha30's but I just couldn't afford it at the time. If I remember correctly I was going to be the first or one of the first outside test cars for them.

Regardless I think TiAL would know better than anyone as to what is done to them considering they do build them!

 

My thoughts all along...

 

Yeah....I think when they were first being developed and sold, there were a few different specs between the vendors/tuners, but now they are all the same mechanically.

 

Im not doubting what Tial told you but....there are many different alpha 28's...

The different variety Ive used, seen, tuned.
Old style (k16 exhaust housing) 2860 journal bearing,
Old style 2680 ball bearing.
New style (cast stainless steel exhaust housing) ball bearing 2860
New style journal bearing 2860
New style ball bearing 2868 billet

 

if they want 'A28' there is one specific turbo, if someone says 'hey can you make this' we also do that, so techinically there is only one A28, BUT our distributors could have something they specified that is a bit different - not technically an 'A28'

-it was me on the phone with you

 

there 'were' many revisions through out the years, but now there is only one A28