Originally Posted by vividracing

If you are worried about the warrranty, just do the exhaust, DV's, and Softronic flash. The DV's are known failure problems that all dealers replace. Softronic is the only company that provides you with the TRUE ORIGINAL file that you can flash back to the car so there is no trace. At the end of the day, the dealer cannot void your FULL warranty, just the parts relating to the aftermarket ones they "do not like". Dealers are BS and they all have their own rules.

Originally Posted by vividracing

false... read and understand here - https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...eal-facts.html

Originally Posted by Ted

Yes it's part of the dealer's Scan Tool software. It's job is to determine whether the ECU has been compromised, very sophisticated, really can't be beaten. Even if you swop out ECU's the counters in the system will be off. This is even if the Porsche dealer does it. The difference is if they replace it for whatever reason they notate it in the system so your warranty won't be voided downline. In other words it can't be beaten/changed even by them. Again, PCNA usually doesn't even ask the dealer to go looking there on a warranty claim if they're a reliable dealer that doesn't turn in unreasonable amounts of claims... In other words the "Watch Dog" doesn't just pop up when they plug in to the OBD port.

Originally Posted by The Bogg

If you have a Softronic tune (or any other that use the client) and you flash back to stock tune can Watch Dog detect that? I note that the flash counter doesn't change in this case.

Originally Posted by Softronic

Lets just say that for every front door there is usually a back one also and different levels of access. Porsche cant as a rule retrieve lost Imob codes on DME's, alter hrs, Over revs etc yet it can be done, not by them though. Many times a Dealer enters a wrong code or exceeds the 3 programming rule and ask for assistance.

The Watchdog or DME monitoring is largely on itself and independent among the other control units. The issue with using a different DME is simply the other units do not increment with them so it is a given as an example that a car with 10 hrs couldn't have 10k miles on it or 300 in another registry etc. Porsche does replace DME's under warranty so the counter for that DME would be 0 yet it is recorded in the history of the car.

A simple rule of thumb is ALL tuned files are detectable period yet there is a difference in a correct Porsche file and how it is loaded as to if it is out of sequence. A tuned file can be detected by its simple binary or even CVN that is viewable on a PIWIS yet you have to know what the correct code is to verify. The PIWIS used to do this however starting in version 18 it was dropped so that it was not readily checkable and used by others.

Originally Posted by Ted

Thanks Scott. This is pretty much exactly what I said but explained in greater detail. Once again, the good thing is Porsche doesn't go looking for these things usually.

Originally Posted by Softronic

The original file that you would flash back to is not detectable as it is the correct file for the car and the CVN, flash counters etc correctly shown. There is nothing lets say detectable than what is correct for the car. I guess you could say it is technically detectable as correct.

As an example someone could have a tuned file in their car and it would be any including mine. Should the car race as stock it would fail. Now if it was flashed back to original and I pulled the entire binary and checked the indexes etc it would be fine.

Originally Posted by ard

^^ Bad advice.

Dealers CAN detect programming. They may not see new code or new parameters, but they will see the memory contents have been re-written.

I suspect that the facotry CAN detect operating parameters outside the range permitted by factory programming, even if the old original programming is re-written.

Quibbling over "voiding" and "Full warranty" is typical from vendors- PCNA will not "void" anything, they will simply not cover AND drivetrain claims if they detect a new exhaust, DV, programming, etc. They you are stuck suing them. Vivid is correct, they make the rules.

IMO, there is no halfway solution- touch the motor, write off the warranty. Maybe if the fit hits the shan you'll be lucky, but dont count on it.

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PS If vivid will sign a written document agreeing to pay any claims if PCNA detects a DME alteration, I'd go with that.

Originally Posted by SRISER

Suncoast has the Turbo sport clutch kit for $689. What is the difference between that and the $1,000 version they have that is just labeled turbo replacement clutch?