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Old Nov 15, 2010 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by 911TTYaz
on a similar subject guys...how the hell do u launch these damn cars!! I've tried everything!!! I cant get the damn thing off the line, it either dies like u havent given it enuf revs or it diff bounces like a b1tch when u give it too many revs!! Im confused!! can sum1 elaborate on the technique!! thakns!
what mods does your car have do you have a Light weight flywheel?

you give 60% throttle and briskly let out the clutch im not saying side step it and away you go. but if your tires suck you will spin em if you leave PSM on it will chop power its not your average car to launch
 
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Hardest car ever to launch. Too little and you fall flat. Too much and you get anoying and potentially destructive wheel hop.

Originally Posted by 911TTYaz
on a similar subject guys...how the hell do u launch these damn cars!! I've tried everything!!! I cant get the damn thing off the line, it either dies like u havent given it enuf revs or it diff bounces like a b1tch when u give it too many revs!! Im confused!! can sum1 elaborate on the technique!! thakns!
 
Old Nov 15, 2010 | 02:25 PM
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You will get type 2 ignitions logged in your ECU with high RPM and that can affect resale. Try to find someone who has done similar mods to what u plan to do and see how far up the RPM range it is still increasing power. Why go past that number?

With my flashed ECU, I''ve plotted RPM vs. engine load and torque falls off pretty badly after about 4500. I suspect the stock K16's won't make any power after 5500 or maybe less.
 
Old Nov 15, 2010 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by OS Inspector
what mods does your car have do you have a Light weight flywheel?

you give 60% throttle and briskly let out the clutch im not saying side step it and away you go. but if your tires suck you will spin em if you leave PSM on it will chop power its not your average car to launch
I have no mods at the moment apart from Forge Diverter Valves. I have only owned the car 2 months. But after new years the modding will begin. So, No i do not have a LWFW. Is holding it at 2400rpm-2600rpm about right? Then sort of engaging the clutch quickly but smoothly and once fully engaged u plant the power?? is that right?

OH and I have Pirelli P zero Rosso N4 at the rear and Michelin PS2 N3 up front.
 
Old Nov 15, 2010 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ari
Hardest car ever to launch. Too little and you fall flat. Too much and you get anoying and potentially destructive wheel hop.
It's just like ari says.......maybe practizing may help.
 
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guys does anybody other than USP do the inlet tubing piping? $850 is a bit steep for about 4ft of piping.
 
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Originally Posted by 911TTYaz
guys does anybody other than USP do the inlet tubing piping? $850 is a bit steep for about 4ft of piping.

Ask Markski@911tunning they do have the inlet piping.
 
Old Nov 15, 2010 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 911TTYaz
guys does anybody other than USP do the inlet tubing piping? $850 is a bit steep for about 4ft of piping.
850 is actually the cheapest version ive seen, protomotives is 1k, evoms is about 1200 or something, S car Go carbon fiber setup is 2k+
 
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We offer the inlet piping with our own custom Hi-flow plenum (below) or with the modified OEM plenum. (less expensive). I prefer to upgrade the plenum, if you are doing this type of upgrade. It provides a smooth unrestricted path to the turbos, which is what this type of mod is all about.





 
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Old Nov 15, 2010 | 09:19 PM
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Personally, I would not raise the redline above 7100 rpm's using stock internals. Back in 2003 we took ours to 7500 rpm's many times and I believe this was partially responsible for bending all six rods.

Heat becomes an issue. Your liner oil squirters are not sufficient and the lifters were not designed for 7500 rpm's.
 
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Most small turbos do not even have anything to give up on top.. so its a waste of time....
Heck, a basic 18g is done at 6500... a K 24 sooner, a K16 even sooner...
 
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Originally Posted by ari
I would personally not go above 7,000. After reading about Divex' car. I would have sworn he had RPM related issues? Don't quote me. I'm just going off forum memory.

I did have mine set at 7350 for a very brief time. The car is definitely a lot more usable in 1st gear.

One issue with these cars is that the engine outruns the tach. You will hit the stock limiter when the tach shows 6,000 RPM in 1st. It takes a mental adjustment so that you won't hit the limiter on a fast takeoff.
I had a lifter fail, which definitely could have been due to an increased redine. I know of a couple other guys on here who had lifter failures as well (more than one), and once they reduced their redline, the failures stopped.

I'd say 7,400, max. But less is even better.
 
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Thanks for all the info guys! I wont be going above 7Krpm!! Only so I can do a 205mph top speed anyways!! loolz
 
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The only reason I can see one would do it is to deal with the short 1st and to better the top speed. My car hits the rev limiter at 326km/h (202.6mph) which then gently holds the car back. I guess if I would raise it to 7K, I would probably hit 335km/h - on the speedo of course. But then again; why? How often you drive up there?
 
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