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Old Dec 29, 2010 | 03:42 PM
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I just love it that you can even think about comparing a ten year old car to new. Shows you how good these cars are.
 
Old Dec 29, 2010 | 03:52 PM
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bad107.. I did not mean your car was slow.. it just sounded like you had done some work to your car, bigger turbo's etc.. I just did not realize that a stock ZR1 was that quick..
 
Old Dec 29, 2010 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by bad107
Yes, standard tranny, no modifications. I did not try to modify the TCU via EVOMS, but the it never worked for some odd reason.

I had a leaky gasket in the transmission when I bought it in January 2010. You had to take apart the tranny to get to the gasket and it was only a few hundred more to have the clutch packs rebuilt, so I sent the gearbox to an awesome dude who rebuilt it to OEM specs (he is a mercedes mechanic). He must have done a good job because i have put 100 gallons of VP109 through my car which puts out >600 tq at the wheels on race gas. The night I went out with the ZR-1 I did about 20+ pulls and put ~50 miles on the car without stopping...NO ISSUES and these pulls were in third gear.

That said, I expect my tranny to fail anytime and Motorwerks of Houston, TX will be rebuilding it to handle 1000+ hsp/tq with faster shifts ($6k ouch!)
Thanks for the info good to see the stock tranny is pretty stout... how many miles do u have on it before rebuilt to oem and since..
 
Old Dec 29, 2010 | 09:37 PM
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Thanks for the info good to see the stock tranny is pretty stout... how many miles do u have on it before rebuilt to oem and since..
rebuilt at 30k miles and i have put 3k or so since then.
 
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Bad don't start with the whole price debate and age of car because then you sound like a typical Corvette Owner LOL They usually bring up the price factor after they get schooled hahah. On a side note my car with 3076's even at .8 bar easily ran away from a '09 Z06 on the highway from 60+. At 1.05 Bar it wasn't pretty Come spring time a friend has a Zr1 so I'll see how I fare against it plus by then I'll be 100% tuned. Damn cold weather I need to move to FL
What's the % of power lost considering you're awd and in a tip car?
 
Old Dec 30, 2010 | 05:00 PM
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Tiptronics lose 25-28% from the crank...they also weigh an extra 100+ pounds and are much larger limiting spacer even more

Despite keeping boost between shifts, this puts the tiptronic at a huge disadvantage.
 
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Originally Posted by boca996tt
bad107.. I did not mean your car was slow.. it just sounded like you had done some work to your car, bigger turbo's etc.. I just did not realize that a stock ZR1 was that quick..
For a frame of reference, stock ZR1's are 7.5-8.0 second 60-130 cars. Pretty much identical to a stock 997 GT2.
 
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Excluding the PDK (which I assume is fastest), are the manual cars quicker than the tips? Or the same 60-130?
 
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Excluding the PDK (which I assume is fastest), are the manual cars quicker than the tips? Or the same 60-130?
Mike - At similar mod levels, the fastest manual cars are always faster than the fastest TIPs. But the TIPs are much more consistent.
 
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Thanks Scott...kinda what I figured...
 
Old Jan 1, 2011 | 11:15 AM
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Sure, sell your 996TT but good luck finding a good looking car that can run a ZR-1!

I'll sell him mine!
 
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Originally Posted by Divexxtreme
Mike - At similar mod levels, the fastest manual cars are always faster than the fastest TIPs. But the TIPs are much more consistent.
I'm not sure they are that much faster when you get to the 800 bhp mark.I would say possibly even a touch slower. I would love to know what Markski thinks on this. Tip has some good points when running mega power.IMO that is.
Ken 996ttalot over here has a full Promotive set up with 800bhp. Its an MKB Tip and it is quick, very very quick. I would love to see the average driver change gears that quick and still retain boost. Trouble is no LSD for Tips at the moment
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