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Old Jan 7, 2011 | 12:46 AM
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Yep, the supra guy you ran is a friend of mine and your recollection is correct. A win is a win. Supra guys find every excuse under the sun when they lose.

Originally Posted by Divexxtreme
I just happen to have raced a 880rwhp Supra when I was making the same power in TX. I was also RWD and our cars weighed pretty much the same. I won the first two races (he claimed he spun both times), and he won the 3rd (I missed 4th). Overall the cars were very, very close.
 
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Scott, recall our race at TX2K a few years back.....we were both near the same power level and I ever so slightly pulled you. I think it comes down to how well the car is set up, tuned, etc... At that power level, driver plays a huge roll as well. I would say it's a toss up given equal power but I will also say that a Supra has the reputation of being an unbeatable highway car for a reason, very FEW cars can run with a properly built/set up Supra...

In the end, just come to TX2K11 if u all want to see some badass cars.
 
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Originally Posted by turtle n hare
Yep, the supra guy you ran is a friend of mine and your recollection is correct. A win is a win. Supra guys find every excuse under the sun when they lose.
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Happy New Year and did you buy Raj car?
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Old Jan 7, 2011 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by houstonT
Scott, recall our race at TX2K a few years back.....we were both near the same power level and I ever so slightly pulled you. I think it comes down to how well the car is set up, tuned, etc... At that power level, driver plays a huge roll as well. I would say it's a toss up given equal power but I will also say that a Supra has the reputation of being an unbeatable highway car for a reason, very FEW cars can run with a properly built/set up Supra...

In the end, just come to TX2K11 if u all want to see some badass cars.

Peter,

I remember it clearly. The only caveat is, you were probably making 50 more HP than I was. I had my boost turned down and didn't turn it up until I got C16 in the tank the next day. I did run Ty and Tim (TT Viper) at full boost, but not you.

I do think the cars are very close, but based on many hundreds of 60-130 times that I've verified over the years, as well as personal head-to-head racing, I do believe theP-cars have a slight advantage from a roll over the Supras, HP to HP. That's only my opinion of course.
 
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I thought your car made 1005 RWHP?
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I thought your car made 1005 RWHP?
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He wasn't at full boost that night. His passenger told me he was probably at 850rwhp or so. I was probably at high 700's.

If he had been at 1,005 rwhp, I wouldn't have had a chance.
 
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I think its also depends on turbos on each of the cars and if they have additonal power adders. Some supras run a small shot to help spool which would change the power delivery of the car entirely. Its all about lag, gearing, and who can put the power down the fastest.
 
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Scott, I was in the 800-850 range but have no real way to know exactly...and of course, neither would my passenger (I'm getting old, can't remember who it was). In any event, I think opposite of you based on my experiences...I think a Supra will have slight advantage top end against a p-car with similar power. Having said that.......LOL, I really don't care! HA!
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Theres really only 1 way to find out...but with that said you can build 2 1000rwhp supras and have 1 complety destroy the other...there are just way to many variables and 500rwhp car can beat a 1000rwhp if the power isnt getting put to the floor. So i guess the real question is wich car most effectivly puts the power to the floor and would in turn be mostlikley to win a race
 
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Having said that.......LOL, I really don't care! HA!
Peter
Same here. Ha ha...
 
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I haven't driven/ridden in a 996 yet, however its like a switch when the power comes on in my supra(4000rpm/760whp) and it doesn't let up at all! supras are definitely hard to beat from a roll! however I cant wait to purchase a Porsche in the future!
 
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Assuming that both the P car and Supra are built to their maximum power levels. Supra 1400 whp. P car 1000 whp.

drag strip: supra wins. Trap speeds are 25-30 mph over that of P cars

road: from a dig P car wins

road: roll from 60 mph P car wins up to 160 mph. Over 160 mph Supra takes

road: roll from 120 mph Supra wins (traction losses are minimized)
 
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It's been a while since I even looked at a supra, but as I recall they have crazy turbo lag which ensures the Porsche is already at home cooling it's turbos before the soup dawg gets on boost!
 
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Originally Posted by TwinTurboM3
Assuming that both the P car and Supra are built to their maximum power levels. Supra 1400 whp. P car 1000 whp.

drag strip: supra wins. Trap speeds are 25-30 mph over that of P cars

road: from a dig P car wins

road: roll from 60 mph P car wins up to 160 mph. Over 160 mph Supra takes

road: roll from 120 mph Supra wins (traction losses are minimized)
The OP's question is 1,000 HP vs 1,000 HP (meaning the same power levels). Not 1,400 HP vs 1,000 HP.
 


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