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Old Mar 10, 2011 | 04:36 PM
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2002 Euro GT2

Hey there,

I am in the market for a low mile, stock (relatively), no stories 996 GT2 and recently came across one that might fit the bill. Upon inspection of the CarFax, it was determined that the car was a Euro car imported here when it was brand new.

The current seller claims that the car was imported by a Porsche dealer who personally drove it for several years. He also stated that the Euro cars have more HP.

So my questions are: why wouldn't a Porsche dealer just drive/buy a US spec car instead of buying a Euro spec? What are the true differences between a US spec and Euro spec GT2? What type of value would a US car with 14,000 miles be vs a Euro spec with 14,000 miles?

Thanks for any insight!!!

Mike
 
Old Mar 10, 2011 | 05:23 PM
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My guess is the US dealers only get so many GT2's and if the quota was met then only option is to import. I know the new GT3RS only so many came to the US.
 
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Originally Posted by Canine64
Hey there,

I am in the market for a low mile, stock (relatively), no stories 996 GT2 and recently came across one that might fit the bill. Upon inspection of the CarFax, it was determined that the car was a Euro car imported here when it was brand new.

The current seller claims that the car was imported by a Porsche dealer who personally drove it for several years. He also stated that the Euro cars have more HP.

So my questions are: why wouldn't a Porsche dealer just drive/buy a US spec car instead of buying a Euro spec? What are the true differences between a US spec and Euro spec GT2? What type of value would a US car with 14,000 miles be vs a Euro spec with 14,000 miles?

Thanks for any insight!!!

Mike

Is this eurospec car a gray market car or was all the US safety equipment installed? Insurance and getting loans may be a problem, but not sure.
 
Old Mar 10, 2011 | 06:30 PM
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I read somewhere that Porsches were (World Cars) much different than say a Euro Ferrari, and the only real difference between Euro Spec and US cars for the Porsche GT2 that model year were bumper reinforcements and US gauges.
 
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Thanks for the replies thus far. The car was federalized in 2003 and has passed CA emissions and been US road legal since that time.

Is there really a HP difference between these cars?
 
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got any pics or link to the car...? may be able to dig up some info from a buddy of mine whose had a similar car...used for track only though...sweet car for sure
 
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Originally Posted by jamie furman
I read somewhere that Porsches were (World Cars) much different than say a Euro Ferrari, and the only real difference between Euro Spec and US cars for the Porsche GT2 that model year were bumper reinforcements and US gauges.
This is correct. I don't beleive that there was any hp difference.
 
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Either way you are getting a motor that will easily (assuming it is properly modded and tuned) make double the hp that it did stock.

I wouldn't care if a Euro model claimed more hp because I would be replacing everything boltable, but that is me.
 
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There was a aurospec gray market gt2 at my local dealer last year with 14k miles. The car was totally stock and the people at the dealer (the car was a consignment car) said the car ran stronger than the other GT2's they have had and it regularly showed 1 bar of boost at my elevation of 6k feet. But they had no engine power specs to say whether it had more rated power or not. It would make sense that if the euro's have 93-94 oct at the pump that their cars would have a little more pressure than the us versions. We have 93 if we are lucky here, mostly 91, so this may be part of it. Just a guess. That GT2 is now in Auto Heaven after being on the road for less than a month...totaled...another widowmaker bites the dust.
 
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I think for that year US models were rated at 456hp and Euro was rated at 462hp, not a big difference.
 
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What should a Euro car be valued at? Would 10% less $$$ than a comparable US spec car be reasonable, all things considered equal?
 
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Originally Posted by Canine64
What should a Euro car be valued at? Would 10% less $$$ than a comparable US spec car be reasonable, all things considered equal?
I would think a Euro car would be valued the same as it's US counterpart because as someone said if they are "world" spec cars then there is no difference less the rear bumperette delete on the Euro model. So for an '02 GT2 (either US or Euro) perhaps looking at at $80 - 90K or so...depending on condition, miles...etc...that's what the several recent examples were going for here on 6spd, some with many mods went for closer to the $90 - 100K mark....and currently there is a rare 04 for sale as well I think that one is in the 100K range...
 
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Originally Posted by sunir
I would think a Euro car would be valued the same as it's US counterpart because as someone said if they are "world" spec cars then there is no difference less the rear bumperette delete on the Euro model. So for an '02 GT2 (either US or Euro) perhaps looking at at $80 - 90K or so...depending on condition, miles...etc...that's what the several recent examples were going for here on 6spd, some with many mods went for closer to the $90 - 100K mark....and currently there is a rare 04 for sale as well I think that one is in the 100K range...
OK cool. I am looking for a "stock" GT2 and have been seeing lots of nice unmodded, low mile (<15,000) cars in the $69-73k range.

I guess, as with every car I've sold, there are "sitting" prices and "selling" prices. For my needs I can't really justify spending more than $70k, and that just happens to be where the car is at right now.
 
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Originally Posted by jamie furman
I think for that year US models were rated at 456hp and Euro was rated at 462hp, not a big difference.
The only reason that is was because one was rated SAE and the other was BHP; so the horsepower is exactly the same.
 
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The only reason that is was because one was rated SAE and the other was BHP; so the horsepower is exactly the same.
That makes sense!
 


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