This is a follow-up to my thread on my sticky clutch problems:
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...tch-pedal.html


In summary, prior to purchasing my car I had a PPI done by a dealer in which there were no concerns. I flew to where I bought the car and drove it about 80km with no problems. While it was sitting to be shipped I had it started to make sure the battery didn't die. Fluid was noted under the car and it turned out to be a bad slave cylinder. The car was flat bedded to the dealer and $2000 later I had a new slave. The car was shipped to me and after my first day of driving it about 100km the clutch pedal started to stick halfway. The original dealer said it was air in the line so I took it to the local dealer and they flushed the system. Problem was solved until I got the car home 50km later.

I've taken it back to the local dealer and now I'm being told that there is some line going to the slave that is "cracked a little" and "might" be the problem for the air getting into the system, not the slave. They want $800 to fix it before they try rebleeding the system or replacing the slave again.

I really don't understand this assisted clutch versus non-assisted GT2 but I don't want to spend another $800 if I can just upgrade to the GT2 and get rid of my headache with this stupid pedal. Had I known more I would have done it initially rather than dumping $2000 to have a stock one that just causes me grief. The increased resistance of the GT2 would not bother me because at this point as it can't be worse than having to pry your toe behind the pedal every shift to make sure the clutch pedal is out all the way before giving any sort of throttle.

Any thoughts or advice?

 

Cory, I'm sure sorry you're still having trouble. Did you find out if Porsche will warrantee their work?

 

They will only make themselves responsible for the parts that were replaced, not the job that was done. So since this line was not replaced it is not covered.

 

you give a order to repair a leak....the dealer repair the leak at the cost of 2000 dollars...now it leaks like before....speak again with this guys ....that is a unfortunate repair ...

 

Sorry to hear about the problems with your car, right after purchase. It sounds to me like you need to find a competent shop to diagnose this problem. I find it hard to imagine even a dealer charging 2k for a simple replacement like this, and then not having it be a long term fix.

That being said, the GT2 hydro conversion was by far the best single modification done to this car. It replaces a complex boosted slave assembly with a simple direct hydraulic actuation of the slave.

The clutch engagement feel is amazing, and very direct. If you ever plan on modifications to your car that require a aftermarket clutch, this is hugely beneficial modification.

Good luck

Tom

 

Sorry to hear you're still having issues with your car, is the car leaking again? I find it hard to believe that a crack would allow air into but no fluid out of a pressurized system...

Since you had the work done at a Porsche dealer this work is warrantied for parts and labour for 2 years (which is why I recommended this route, although $2k seems excessive). I'd contact Porsche Cars Canada before spending anymore money on this issue and see if they can help resolve this for you.

 

The car is not leaking fluid anymore but the pedal is not returning properly. The explanation I was given is that there is air in the system. Despite being rebled the problem still is present. The second dealer is not figuring the problem is a small leak in this "hose" that is "possibly" allowing air into the system. I asked if it can be bypassed by installing a GT2 setup and the parts guy and the shop foreman have no idea what I'm talking about in terms of upgrading to the GT2 setup.

 

I'd maybe seek out an indy shop, maybe contact the local pca club and get opinions of who to use. I dont think its being diagnosed correcty. Did you contact porsche canada? Ask the dealer for their number, might help them figure it out faster.

 

I think that if I paid 2K for a fix and I have to pry the pedal off the floor I would argue that the leak was fixed but not the problem and that the dealer only fixed the easiest to see problem (leak) but should have checked the system. I think this is a common problem of replacing parts vs diagnosing problem and fixing.

 

I spoke with the original dealer and they were very understanding of my frustrations and want to make things right. They feel that the problem is air in the line. They believe that one needs to be more diligent with getting all the air out of the lines than what the Porsche specs recommend. They have had this problem on many cars with Pentosin and will let the car sit over night and re-bleed it until they get it right. In fact they did do it twice on the original fix. The original dealer is very apologetic for my inconvenience and seems committed to satisfying me and is contacting the second dealer to help educate them and get the problem solved.

I have contacted a local indy shop that is willing to help me out if need be but feels that Porsche should stand behind their work, hence why the car is currently back at the dealer.

 

to bad you are on the island, I'm in port coquitlam and was the one who did this post:
Built and installed my own gt2 mod kit with instructions
Its under the knowledge thread or just copy and paste into the search bar. It will explain how.
costs under $500, had it for awhile now its still awesome.

 

On both 996TT's that I bought I had the clutch slave problem. The cost to fix the first one was around $1500. When the second one went I decided to get the EVOMS GT2 kit and have it installed at my local dealer when the car went in for a bunch of other work (new clutch, LSD, etc.) They said it was pretty straightforward to install. The only issue we had was mating the factory reservoir line to the new master cylinder. EVOMS forgot to include the special adapter. I much prefer the clutch feel now to what it was before. If I was to guess how much it would cost to do I would say a bit more than the price as changing the stock slave. The EVOMS kit is approx $1000 and I don't doubt the install would take 8-10 hours.

 

Just a final follow-up to my thread for those that might find this helpful when struggling with a sticky clutch pedal.

The local dealership bled the system twice and then let the car sit for a couple of days to make sure it was working fine. I have been driving it for a couple of weeks now with no problems at all. So I guess it just turned out to be air in the system.

As an aside the customer service I received from the initial dealer was 110% and he bent over backwards to make sure I was happy.