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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 03:09 AM
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Could it be that two Belgian tuners designed a _very_ similair exhaust by chance? Great Belgians think alike or is one making it for the other or??? I think SuperSpring made exhausts for Tech Art and there's other instances of that occuring. The designs do look similair but yet different in a few areas.

For example look at the cats... the section behind on the Europipe is vastly different (and hence they probably sound a bit different). The center section allowing for flex can't be "PSI's or Europipe's idea". That's just common sense to allow for flexing and to avoid any chance of cracking when the motor moves (and of course heat etc..). Guess who had the first exhaust with that... our stock Porsche ones from Boysen.

They look different enough to me.
 

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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 03:42 AM
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Could it be that two Belgian tuners designed a _very_ similair exhaust by chance? Great Belgians think alike or is one making it for the other or??? I think SuperSpring made exhausts for Tech Art and there's other instances of that occuring. The designs do look similair but yet different in a few areas.

For example look at the cats... the section behind on the Europipe is vastly different (and hence they probably sound a bit different). The center section allowing for flex can't be "PSI's or Europipe's idea". That's just common sense to allow for flexing and to avoid any chance of cracking when the motor moves (and of course heat etc..). Guess who had the first exhaust with that... our stock Porsche ones from Boysen.

They look different enough to me.
Alex,

I believe, in all fairness, I stated the area after the cats (expansion chamber versus medium bends) was duly noted.

Regarding the bellows and cracking, yes the bellows help, however the base materials used in conjunction with the WPS's and PQR's (welding proceedure specifications and proceedure qualification reports) will address crack resistence to a far greater degree.
 

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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 06:26 AM
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Chad.......I also know what has been said, thats for Attorneys.

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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 10:11 AM
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Alex,

I believe, in all fairness, I stated the area after the cats (expansion chamber versus medium bends) was duly noted.

Regarding the bellows and cracking, yes the bellows help, however the base materials used in conjunction with the WPS's and PQR's (welding proceedure specifications and proceedure qualification reports) will address crack resistence to a far greater degree.
Doh I went up and read that I've not yet heard/installed/ridden in with the PSI muffler so I don't have any experience with it other than the pictures. Does look good though from what I can see!
 
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Chad.......I also know what has been said, thats for Attorneys.

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Yikes what does that mean????
 
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Sharky........lets say I don’t go around slagging companies off by sending people PM`s & Emails. I have never slagged anyone or any company on this or any other website. This is all I am going to say on this matter.

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Sharky........lets say I don’t go around slagging companies off by sending people PM`s & Emails. I have never slagged anyone or any company on this or any other website. This is all I am going to say on this matter.

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Well I know this is a public forum but everyone but both of you are good guys so I'd hate to see anything go south...
 
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Well I know this is a public forum but everyone but both of you are good guys so I'd hate to see anything go south...
Hey Sharkey I have no problems with Chad. Everyone has an opinion. When Manufactures do this then, I have a problem.


Anyway hows the black beast doing



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Hey Sharkey I have no problems with Chad. Everyone has an opinion. When Manufactures do this then, I have a problem.


Anyway hows the black beast doing



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OK groovy

It's goin'... well it tries to but then eats MAFs
 
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Ohhh it sounds nice Neil! Very nice indeed. Sorta similair to Europipe's nice sound but yet different.
 
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Thanks Sharky.............I real life its alot louder than the EP More like a cup car sound....................
 
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Thanks Sharky.............I real life its alot louder than the EP More like a cup car sound....................
Oh I see... Well the tone is a nice one. I mean it's not boaty and it's high pitched and more like a Porsche-sound which I like
 
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Did you post sound clips somewhere that I missed? Is it more affordable than Europipe?
 
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Steve let me have your email and I will send you the sound clip.

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