Headers, Headers and more Headers
Originally posted by Kevin
With stock K24's, I'm betting that the car actually lost torque till 4000 +/- 500 RPM.. After that it should pull ahead..
With stock K24's, I'm betting that the car actually lost torque till 4000 +/- 500 RPM.. After that it should pull ahead..
Last edited by cjv; May 1, 2005 at 04:38 PM.
Originally posted by Kevin
Come on Chad, you know the truth... (smile) We also know the application in which these headers will perform.. The build quality is top notch!
Come on Chad, you know the truth... (smile) We also know the application in which these headers will perform.. The build quality is top notch!
I am not a racer but I do have S-Car-Go headers, S-Car-Go carbon air intake, rebuilt my stock turbos with garret ball bearing turbos and a GReddy Boost Controller. I have NO lag. It is hard not to have the boost even with a light touch to the pedal. I am very pleased with the S-Car-Go upgrade I have.
CJV thanks for clarifying the gear ratios used, great choice. The stock 996 TT 1st. gear is 3.818 993GT2, Clubsport and others came with a taller 1st. gear (3.15) and 2nd. (2.0). The 996 GT2 is the same as the 996 TT I believe.
Originally posted by Jean
CJV thanks for clarifying the gear ratios used, great choice. The stock 996 TT 1st. gear is 3.818 993GT2, Clubsport and others came with a taller 1st. gear (3.15) and 2nd. (2.0). The 996 GT2 is the same as the 996 TT I believe.
CJV thanks for clarifying the gear ratios used, great choice. The stock 996 TT 1st. gear is 3.818 993GT2, Clubsport and others came with a taller 1st. gear (3.15) and 2nd. (2.0). The 996 GT2 is the same as the 996 TT I believe.
I don't remember all my gear ratios off the top of my head, but I'm sure they are posted somewhere in the cjv/s car go thread.
Originally posted by Kevin
Chad, like I said earlier, with the combination that he is running he lost power. The turbine wheel stalls.. To fix his loss, he has 2 choices. Have Scargo decrease the ID of the primaries. Or keep the headers and run K16's with larger compressor wheels.. Velocity of the turbine wheel is the key.
Chad, like I said earlier, with the combination that he is running he lost power. The turbine wheel stalls.. To fix his loss, he has 2 choices. Have Scargo decrease the ID of the primaries. Or keep the headers and run K16's with larger compressor wheels.. Velocity of the turbine wheel is the key.
I don't know the details of Ken's set up and depending on his set up, yes your suggestions are two distinct options. I have also used other options with very good success. Namely, insulating the heads and tuning the motor to the headers.
I have run smaller and larger headers on my car. My problem was a little different. The smaller headers produced better power in the lower 4000 rpm range, however lost power after compared to the larger diameter headers.
I found insulating the headers was like finding free power. In addition, I'll bet the S Car Go headers are making the motor run leaner. Add fuel and the power will come way up.
I don't know what Ken is running for an intake, however another way of taking advantage of the S Car Go headers is to use the S Car Go carbon fiber intake. This intake by itself will produce another 25 hp and coupled with the headers will further eliminate the stall you refer to.
Last edited by cjv; May 10, 2005 at 07:38 PM.
Originally posted by Kevin
Chad, like I said earlier, with the combination that he is running he lost power. The turbine wheel stalls.. To fix his loss, he has 2 choices. Have Scargo decrease the ID of the primaries. Or keep the headers and run K16's with larger compressor wheels. Velocity of the turbine wheel is the key.
Chad, like I said earlier, with the combination that he is running he lost power. The turbine wheel stalls.. To fix his loss, he has 2 choices. Have Scargo decrease the ID of the primaries. Or keep the headers and run K16's with larger compressor wheels. Velocity of the turbine wheel is the key.
Mike
I have a pair of headers from kevin.... very nice....
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Originally posted by Kevin
Mike, K16/Garrett hybrids does meet what I said. However, all Ken has to do is grab a set of stock headers, grind the inside welds like this..
http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforum...6TT+header+DIY
All his power an more will come back..
Mike, K16/Garrett hybrids does meet what I said. However, all Ken has to do is grab a set of stock headers, grind the inside welds like this..
http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforum...6TT+header+DIY
All his power an more will come back..
I believe we all need to sit tight and see what Ken comes up with.
The stock headers even ported, start to lose ground to S Car Go type headers at about 560 hp.To simply bolt on each header and see which one makes more power is moot. Without tuning the ECU and removing weak links prior to the heads for each exhaust it's impossible to know which system makes more power. Moreover, power is not necessarily our ultimate goal, otherwise we would have used straight through design. It makes alot more sense to measure exhaust gas backpressure and monitor boost pressure during a dyno pull. Measuring backpressure is a straight forward indication of how good an exhaust is, and looking at the boost we also get an idea of the throttle response characteristics and the source of the added power.
Last edited by cjv; May 10, 2005 at 09:28 PM.
Originally posted by Kevin
The stock K24 compressor wheel starts to run out of steam right above 5500RPM. A larger compressor wheel would allow more air to help this situation.
The stock K24 compressor wheel starts to run out of steam right above 5500RPM. A larger compressor wheel would allow more air to help this situation.
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2001 996TT 3.6L and stock ECU
9.66 seconds @ 147.76 mph 1/4 mile click to view
160 mph @ 9.77 seconds in 1/4 mile click to view
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2001 996TT 3.6L and stock ECU
9.66 seconds @ 147.76 mph 1/4 mile click to view
160 mph @ 9.77 seconds in 1/4 mile click to view
50% OFF ON PORSCHE ECU TUNING BLACK FRIDAY SPECIAL






