996 Turbo / GT2 Turbo discussion on previous model 2000-2005 Porsche 911 Twin Turbo and 911 GT2.

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Old Oct 17, 2003 | 04:44 AM
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I am considering adding a few more factory options to my order and would appreciate your opinion on : 1. Ceramic Brakes (PCCB) and 2. Sport Techno Wheels, are they just styled differently or are these wheels lighter? stronger?
 
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From the threads on this site and the Rennlist site, it seems to me that the PCCB brakes are more trouble than they are worth. Pretty costly as well, both in terms of initial option cost, and subsequent parts. You could always upgrade your stock brakes with a strong set up from Brembo or Wilwood after the fact.

I have a set of Sport Technos that were on my car before I did a ruf conversion and changed wheels. They are lighter than stock (don't know about stronger).

They are for sale by the way with Pirelli's (800 miles)...
 
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PCCB - If you want them because they are cool, get them. If you track the car, don't get them. Search this site, and some others, for details.

Sport Techno Wheels - I have seen a few cars with them that were the stock look. I did not like them, too "thick" for my tastes. That being said, I have seen some painted where they leave the flat serface unpainted and I think they look great.

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no on the technos....

I hear that they don't make technos with the right offset
for the 996tt, so yoiu have to run a spacer on the rears.
For acceleration and handling, I would get the carbon
ceramic brakes. They make a lot of difference weight-wise,
but as you've heard, they may not last long under track
conditions.
 
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Re: no on the technos....

Originally posted by Joe Weinstein
I hear that they don't make technos with the right offset
for the 996tt, so yoiu have to run a spacer on the rears.
For acceleration and handling, I would get the carbon
ceramic brakes. They make a lot of difference weight-wise,
but as you've heard, they may not last long under track
conditions.
You are correct Joe. I have the Sport Techno wheels and I do have spacers on my back wheels. That said, I think they look much better than stock, but, still would prefer aftermarket 19's. The Techno wheels use spacers so that they could have cross selling between the 911 and Cayenne model lines. The techno wheels simply bolt directly on the narrow body 911. Porsche Marketing at its best.

PCCB- I cannot speak from experience, just heard the same things mentioned above. It is upwards of $8000 to replace the brakes and rotors should they wear

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Thanks....I think I will pass on both options.
 
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Re: no on the technos....

Originally posted by Joe Weinstein
I hear that they don't make technos with the right offset
for the 996tt, so yoiu have to run a spacer on the rears.
For acceleration and handling, I would get the carbon
ceramic brakes. They make a lot of difference weight-wise,
but as you've heard, they may not last long under track
conditions.
Joe is right on point. PCCB's save you about 38 lbs of unsprung weight over the Turbo system, even though the PCCB rotors and calipers are larger. BTW, the Techno wheels are heavier than the hollow spokes. As you can tell, I'm a big fan of reducing unsprung weight.

As for brakes, the PCCB's do feel much better than the stock Turbo brakes -- at least, that's my experience based upon driving both cars back to back. It's not an issue of aesthetics -- braking/brake feel is BETTER, IMHO.

As to how the ceramic rotors will hold up--for street driving, I'm sure they will last the 200,000 miles as Porsche claimed in their original marketing material. As for track use, I still think the jury is out, unless you run Porsche's "green" race pads with the ceramics. While the brakes work well with those pads, it appears they will wear/destroy the ceramic rotors in short order. I'm only saying the "jury is still out" on this issue of wear, since I know of only 2-3 people who have had problems and posted good info about the issue, but also know of four others who have taken their GT2's to the track (with "yellow" pads) and have not had a rotor problem....yet -- time will tell.
 
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