Dropped the car off at the dealer for a stock part replacement today. I tried the car that had a conversion today, and it was massively stiff. I doubt it was representative of how a properly done kit would feel as that should feel like a GT2 and I doubt Porsche would even sell a car with a clutch pedal this stiff. Unfortunately the dealer had no GT3 or GT2 cars on the lot, so I feel as though I had little choice here. The only other alternative would have been to garage store the car and have no mode of transportation and hold out hope a GT2 or GT3 would show up locally somewhere so I could try out its clutch pedal.

On another note, has anyone sought reimbursement from Porsche for repairs of this nature? It seems as though it's not a matter of if these things fail but when, so if that's true I feel Porsche be held somewhat responsible here..

I really wish I could have made a more informed decision here. The slave is being ordered and won't be in until Mon/Tues. Any last minute ideas? I suppose it's too late to back out now if they're ordering a part specifically for my vehicle anyhow. Again, I just feel poor about all of this as I was unable to objectively compare my options.

 

I don't know what answer you were looking for here but you have been given the best answer hands down. I've done the GT2 converson and still have my stock clutch. Great change, and driven correctly the stock clutch should last a long time and I track my car alot. (Still haven't fixed this F-in large evap leak. Do the conversion and you will be much happier with the car....my two bucs.

Tim

 

Jonty, the car you drove with the GT2 conversion did it have a stock or aftermarket clutch in it? As the massive stiffness you felt may be a stronger pressure plate usually associated with aftermarket clutches. I never drove a GT2 conversion or GT2 before so I don't know what the pedal would feel like on a stock clutch. Mine is definetly a lot stiffer than stock but that's what I would think would be the case with my stage 3. I'm sure the dealer can return the parts with out a problem if your on the fence about it. The fact you want to modify your car with exhausts, flashes etc... I would think you would be the type to do this mod. In the end though a running P is better than a non running P. Good Luck!

 

If I ever did an aftermarket clutch it would be to replace the stock one cause it went bad (flash or not), but I'd want something that felt the same or very similar to stock but could hold higher levels of torque. I'm not sure how this affects a GT2 slave setup.

Any GT2s around the Pacific Northwest? This would have been so much easier if I'd just gotten set up with a Porsche club membership.

Again I want to thank everyone for their comments and 6speed for giving me a sound board to vent my automotive frustrations!

 

Hi everyone,

Thanks for everyone's input. I'm looking into doing this myself and started sending PMs to people who have done this but figure this is (hopefully) a better way for people to comment.

Here are my questions:
- I'm considering doing the GT2 slave conversion myself. If you've done this on our own, how did you find it? How long did it take? Any challenges? (may also include your background experience working on cars to give me an indication whether or not I should go ahead with this vs. finding a mechanic who will do this for me)

- also, did you mount directly on bell housing or use a bracket in a kit? In reading several posts, people have mention the former method but am concerned if this is possible without removing the gearbox.

- lastly, do I have to upgrade the clutch/PP/FW or can I stick with the stock setup for now?

Thanks in advance.

Your comments would be much appreciated.

 

[QUOTE=99jules;3567164]Here are my questions:
- I'm considering doing the GT2 slave conversion myself. If you've done this on our own, how did you find it? How long did it take? Any challenges? (may also include your background experience working on cars to give me an indication whether or not I should go ahead with this vs. finding a mechanic who will do this for me)

- also, did you mount directly on bell housing or use a bracket in a kit? In reading several posts, people have mention the former method but am concerned if this is possible without removing the gearbox.

- lastly, do I have to upgrade the clutch/PP/FW or can I stick with the stock setup for now?
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I have had the GT2 conversion done by a shop using the bracket appraoch. This was due to cost saving over the direct OEM parts to the bell housing. If I had the trans out I would go with the OEM parts on the bell housing.

I have a LWFW and upgraded clutch. No you do not need to do this unless you have a modified car that is making more power.

To the OP, you will be back doing this every year or two if you go back with the stock parts. I have had my car for 10 years now and did the accumulator and slave twice before going with the GT2 conversion. No issues since the conversion. So you have to decide what is better? Yes Porsche knows about this. No they are not covering it.

Lastly you will get used to the pedal feel and may even like. I do and so do the others that have done the mod.

 

Thanks for your comments

So if I go ahead with the bracket now, will it be a huge issue to convert to the bell housing location down the road should I decide to upgrade the clutch (i.e. while the trans is out can it be relocated with minimal effort?).

My only reason for asking about the bracket is that there was another post where someone mentioned that they experienced failure at the bracket, resulting in significant damage. Has anyone heard out this incident?

Thanks again

 

I went with the GT2 conversion a few thousand miles ago when my stock clutch in my X50 went adios at a little over 50k miles. I have the Clutchmasters FX300 package with their LWFW and modded pressure plate and fiber tough disc. Vivid Racing put in their prototype clutch conversion kit and I've been very happy with the results. The clutch pedal pressure is massively increased yes with this setup, but it's not a daily driver I take in traffic.

The stock clutch isn't adequate to the job. For someone like you that sounds like they want a little lighter pedal feel then go with the dual mass FW and the non-modded pressure plate. You can keep your slave/accumulator but the problem is they're known to have issues so do you want reliability and not as much ease of driveability, or less reliability and more driveabilty?

 

Happy to help. It will not eb an issue at all. It is what I plan on doing when I pull the trans next.

This is the first I have heard of the bracket being an issue or causing damage. Perhaps others can chime in with what the problem is/was?

John@speedtech did the GT2 conversion with the 993 GT2 OEM parts. He has a post on rennntrack.com I believe that shows the part #'s and what it looks like. Of cousre he is a sponser here and a stand up guy and has posted in this thread.

Bottom line, I consider this a manitenance item. Do it now or do it later. But if you do go the GT2 conversion route you will have improved the reliablity of your car and have one less "maintenance item" to maintain.