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Old Jun 22, 2012 | 04:01 PM
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I put the Hankook's on the rear of my 2010 911 and PS2's on the front (have ~10K on the front and almost no wear). My initial driving experience was "get these things off my car"... they have almost no discernable sidewall strength... I can feel the tires flexing a lot even with the slightest turn. At highway speed the car is almost dangerous to drive. Every move has to be slow and planned due to the amount of lag between a steering input and the rears actually responding. When I turn off the PSM the car drives a bit better, but not like it does with PS2's on all 4 corners.

I plan to get some miles out of the Hankooks but go back to expensive PS2's that make the car handle like it is on rails. I MAY switch the fronts out to the Hankooks to see if I get a better experience if all 4 are the same tire.... but I don;t want to waste another several hundred to find out they handle as poorly as the wide rear tires.

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Originally Posted by pcooley53
I put the Hankook's on the rear of my 2010 911 and PS2's on the front (have ~10K on the front and almost no wear). My initial driving experience was "get these things off my car"... they have almost no discernable sidewall strength... I can feel the tires flexing a lot even with the slightest turn. At highway speed the car is almost dangerous to drive. Every move has to be slow and planned due to the amount of lag between a steering input and the rears actually responding. When I turn off the PSM the car drives a bit better, but not like it does with PS2's on all 4 corners.

I plan to get some miles out of the Hankooks but go back to expensive PS2's that make the car handle like it is on rails. I MAY switch the fronts out to the Hankooks to see if I get a better experience if all 4 are the same tire.... but I don;t want to waste another several hundred to find out they handle as poorly as the wide rear tires.

Any adivse is welcome. PC
If you want to really figure out if the Hankooks are for you, I'm thinking you should definitely swap out the fronts too. Having mixed tires on the fronts and rears (especially different brands, compounds, etc.) may do some really funny things -- especially if the PSM starts to fight you. Whichever way you eventually decide to go, you've probably got the worse setup right now.
 
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If you want to really figure out if the Hankooks are for you, I'm thinking you should definitely swap out the fronts too. Having mixed tires on the fronts and rears (especially different brands, compounds, etc.) may do some really funny things -- especially if the PSM starts to fight you. Whichever way you eventually decide to go, you've probably got the worse setup right now.
Definitely!
 
Old Jun 22, 2012 | 05:38 PM
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I know this is not related to Hankooks, but FWIW, I replaced Contis on my old C2 with Falken RT-615 and it was an incredible improvement (duh, old vs. new tires..). Loved the RT-615s, but they are NOT a wet tire (heck, I would even have trouble suggesting them for moist environments!). Wore them out in 8K miles and replaced them with Sumitomo HTRZ3s and those were a lot softer and more compliant (think new Contis)

Bottom line: for street driving, even pushing the limits, 'alternative' tires (Hankook, Falken, Sumitomo) will be fine. For the price, you can replace all 4 at the same time for equal to two premium (Michelin, etc.) tires. Depending on how often you drive and the conditions in which this is done, the alternate brands may be a better fit for you or not.

All this said, I do understand/realize that the only thing separating you between the road and an object not intended to be hit are your tires. Falkens were awesome in the dry. One drop of rain, forget about it... I currently run Toyo Proxes on my CTT (and 2002 Nissan Pathfinder!) and love them. Even better than the old Michelins on the CTT.
 

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Originally Posted by pcooley53
My initial driving experience was "get these things off my car"... they have almost no discernable sidewall strength... I can feel the tires flexing a lot even with the slightest turn.
exactly. anyone that runs these that doesn't have to ( on a porsche turbo ) either doesn't know any better, or can't afford better tires, or a combo of both. no harm in trying, but they are just cheap tires. they reminded me of when i put falkens on my old 993 trying to SAVE MONEY on tires.
 
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Tire choices

My experience is this:
  • All 4 tires must be same brand/model or you are asking for handling problems.
  • 18" are better on an 03 tt than 19" both handling and tire choices
  • For street, Hankooks give you 85% of PS2 perf at 50% of the cost although you will not like them when brand new. Need to be scrubbed in to get acceptable handling.
  • For autocross or track, get an extra set of wheels and mount track tires.
 
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Originally Posted by Twinturbofan
My experience is this[*]For street, Hankooks give you 85% of PS2 perf at 50% of the cost although you will not like them when brand new. Need to be scrubbed in to get acceptable handling.
well put, can't argue with that. with the availability of ps2's in 18's on ebay at roughly 35/40% under retail ( albeit mfg date sensitive ) it factors in for those of us who like to keep better tires on the car, particularly if cost is an issue. ( and when is it not.. ). so, instead of the old $565.00 per tire for rear ps2's they can be had for $300.00, what i paid for the last cpl sets.

but please, no one buy the old n rated ps2's off off ebay for 300.00 each so they'll still have them when we need more
 
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