Track Pads:
I have a set of PFC01's for the fronts that I will be using. Now I'm looking for some rear pads. I see a new set of pfc01 rears runs $270, and I was hoping to not spend that much, so I'm looking for other options. What would pair well? Do I want something more or less aggressive on the rear? How can I find out if a different brand/model is? Are coeff friction listed? For instance, I notice Hawk DTC70 run about $210, a little nicer on the wallet. Others?

Here's some notes to help gauge for my case:
- I'm not some super racer, but indeed the car is fast (stock X50) on a fast track (VIR).
- I'll be on Sumitomo HTR ZIII street tires
- PSS9's, exhaust, otherwise stock
- I'm only planning to use these for 2 days
- I'll be in yellow group
- First time out in this car, and first time to track in > 5 years (previously 6 days in Audi S4 at VIR, LRP, RA)



Street Pads:
I think I'm low enough on my current stock (assumed OEM) pads, that I won't put those back in after the event, so I'm also looking for an all new set of street pads. I'm not hard on my brakes on the street, so something similar to OEM for less would be desired. Suggestions? I see Pelican has Textar for $90F/$114R - are those worth considering? Others?

Thanks for any suggestions.

Regards,
Mark

PS - Here's a photo I took yesterday when leaving the office - North Carolina is beautiful this time of year!

 

I may catch heck from the forum group, but if you are in a basically stock car with stock tires, and your experience level is fairly low, stock pads are absolutely fine for a day or two at a HPDE. Spend time focusing on your line and not pushing so hard. The stock OEM pads are more than adequate. When you are ready to upgrade and spend more, step up to Carbotech xp10s or Pagid yellows.
My 2 cents!

However, DO spend the $ for a brake flush and go with Motul Blue or other approved high temp fluid. That's money we'll spent!!

 

Brakes are an aarea where scrimping is not advisable. I like the carbon tech
Ads, great sto
Ping but a little squeal.

 

Out of curiosity, what's a good source for Carbontech pads, or other track pads in general? I had Carbontech XP8's on my S4 previously and was happy with them at the time.

So far I've looked at the following, but didn't see carbontech at any:
raceshopper
ogracing
ecstuning

I agree on the perspective of focusing on the line, etc. Similarly, I wouldn't want R compounds at my level as I'd not be able to feel the car control as much (or at lower speeds, relatively). That said, I do want to ensure I can brake well, lap after lap, 2 long straights, when needed, so I don't feel quite the same about brakes. While I would be handicapped with R compounds, I can always choose to use less brakes. I do appreciate the input though. I intentionally wanted to get feedback based on my situation (which you have), while elsewhere the feedback was based on more advanced drivers. Thank you.

I was planning on going with a flush of Motul RBF600 fluid. I'm not familiar with Motul Blue - is there such a thing?

 

Less brake more throttle. Seriously.

If you use your brakes wisely and you take your time to learn the line,
and not rush into things, stock brake pads are more then enough.

I never had an issue with brake fade with stock pads on my 996t, and I'm
not the slowest guy.

 

Whatever you do, DO NOT mix brake pad compounds front/rear.

I have honestly done 5,000 plus track miles and have probably only went off track 4 times (not counting 2 wheels off ).

Two of those four times were on the same day with a miss matched set of pads.

Keep in mind I'm an experienced driver/instructor and it still caught me off guard in areas where I was trail braking. It can work for some cars and is recommended to improve brake bias sometimes, but I would never recommned it unless you have significant track time and are using a tried and true combination.

I assume you're not running this weekends event with Chin Motorsports?

Later, Steve

 

Steve,

Really mix match to front to rear pads caught you off guard ? For an experience driver ? Steve cmon, you were probably distracted by the hot gal on the side lines. I mix match front / rear's all the time. To try to get more rear brake bias.

 

Mark, I just deal directly with CarboTech. They are so good to deal with. Funny, I used CTech xp8's pads on my S5, and that's where I fell in love with their characteristics. Also, they are very gentle on rotors. Same Audi story! Good luck

 

The problem is I already had upgraded brakes that were very balanced. As an example, I had 18% more brake torque on the front and 61% more on the rear. Add to that a waaaaayyyyyy more aggressive rear pad and hang on. I never actually spun the car, but the time it took me to catch the rear made me late for my turn in point and so I drove the car off.

For reference this happened at VIR entering the blind, down hill turn 10 at over 100mph.

Later, Steve

 

Last year I spoke with the tech guys at Performance Friction and they recommended the 08 compound on the front and 06 on the rear for the 996tt. This set up works very well as it shifts the brake bias a little more to the rear. I've been running this set up all year and these pads are awesome. They last longer than any other pads I have run including the Pagid yellows. The PFC pads also work just fine on the street.

 

Nice!

 

Thanks guys. Since I have PFC01s coming for the front (I bought a slightly used set off a fellow 6speed-er), I think I'll just get PFC01s for the rear as well so I'm not second guessing some other combo. Thanks for all the feedback!

 

PFC01 is the setup I'm about to install as well. Looking for more performance and longevity.

Good luck and let us know how the first DE goes! Try and get some sleep the night before (hard to do) take it easy and just learn the line. Speed will come later.

 

I am sure you have found out (since this post is 2 years old) the 01s are quite aggressive, create a lot of dust, and wear the rotors pretty hard. I haven't tried the 06s but hear they provide a great initial bite with a little less aggressiveness on the rotor wear. Anyone w/ experience please chime in, I am due for a set.

 

There are no more 01 or 06s made. PFC basically only make the 08 and 11 now. The 08 is the long lasting endurance compound and the 11 is what replaced the 01. 11 has more bite than the 08. With that said, 08 front and 11 rear is the way to go on these cars, especially is you are running the stock brakes as the rears are way underutilized.