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Old 01-05-2013, 10:13 PM
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I toasted a single disc setup an summer with gt3076r's. There is a twin disc which is cheaper then the triple. If you are looking to launch the car you would be hard pressed to find better. carbon is softer on the trans then ceramic or sintered iron plus lasts longer.
 
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Originally Posted by 32krazy! View Post
i read the links. just wonder if its overkill for me. you guys have twice the rwhp and torque im ever gonna have!

I do not make anywhere near the power Tim does. I am only just over 600hp at the wheels and just under that for torque.

I look at it this way. The overkill does not hurt me in any way, it does not make the car harder to drive, infact it is one of the easyest modulating 911 clutches I have found to date. This clutch with the GT2 conversion is everything that a good 911 clutch should be.

I to was told I could go with the ERP twin disc for a little less $$$, When Cary told me that this clutch was no harder to drive yet it was that much stronger I felt it was a no brainer.

The ACT performance clutch that was in my car when I got it only lasted about 3000 miles. The AMS boys tortured it doing some drags and texas mile event and I got it and put about 1000 of those miles on the car before it started slipping. When I pulled it out to put this ERP in the ACT looked really really shagged and it was crap to modulate.
 

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I guess you guys are right to do it the right way the first time even though it cost more at the beginning.
I just was trying to tell him a nice up grade to save some money now.
 

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I guess you guys are right to do it the right way the first time even though it cost more at the beginning.
I just was trying to tell him a nice up grade to save some money now.
agreed john. for me im trying to find the happy medium between the 1250 and 4000 $ pricepoint that will last for a long time and still street friendly. not an easy task!!
 
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Originally Posted by 32krazy! View Post
agreed john. for me im trying to find the happy medium between the 1250 and 4000 $ pricepoint that will last for a long time and still street friendly. not an easy task!!
I started out with a K24 upgrade.... I have been through 6 sets of turbos on my way... 5 clutches... I do all my own labor or this would be one really expensive hobby
 
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Originally Posted by Tim941NYC View Post
I started out with a K24 upgrade.... I have been through 6 sets of turbos on my way... 5 clutches... I do all my own labor or this would be one really expensive hobby
i applaude you for that tim. if i didnt do my own labor i couldnt afford the car. im not up to the task of a complete engine rebuild so k24/18 will be about as far as i go.
 
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5k ?? i got a sachs 2.5 installed for 3k... this is all you need for your power.. I'm at around 600 crank and this clutch holds just fine.. can't remember, but i think its good for 650 crank...I'd add the GT2 conversion while you were there.. I have the 997 upgrade, which makes it supper easy to drive, but when i do it next time, i will add the GT2m maybe?.
 
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5k ?? i got a sachs 2.5 installed for 3k... this is all you need for your power.. I'm at around 600 crank and this clutch holds just fine.. can't remember, but i think its good for 650 crank...I'd add the GT2 conversion while you were there.. I have the 997 upgrade, which makes it supper easy to drive, but when i do it next time, i will add the GT2m maybe?.
The gt2 slave kit is 1000$ so now your at 4k.. The the labor to flush the lines, change the master. bleed. remove the power steering pump pull the coupler for the slave pump re install and block off and or remove the unused lines.. Thats a lot of labor..
 
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Originally Posted by 32krazy! View Post
i applaude you for that tim. if i didnt do my own labor i couldnt afford the car. im not up to the task of a complete engine rebuild so k24/18 will be about as far as i go.
Yes that is a great thing to be capable of doing your own work,,I wish I was confident enough and knowledgable enough on these cars to be a hands on guy because then the Big Dogs would have alittle competiton...LOL..
Also I have heard many say they were going to stop after K24/18s
 

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So much great advice and so much to think about to make the right setup for me at the right price point, thanks a lot all!
 
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its 8 hr shop time plus the parts...
 
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Originally Posted by mod mike View Post
its 8 hr shop time plus the parts...
So if the shop has a labor rate of 125$ an hour the 5k is spot on.
 
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Qty Rate Total
Labor Assess and repair boost hose issues 1.00 125.00 125.00
Labor Assess and repair High boost issues 1.00 125.00 125.00
Labor Datalog ECU and clear codes 1.00 125.00 125.00
***work already performed***
Miscellaneous Clutch Kit for 996TT stage 2 650hp "764 pressure plate". 1,310.00 1,310.00T
Miscellaneous T/O bearing set 1.00 199.00 199.00T
BBI M91 PUL 997/997TT under-drive pulley
Labor Install all components 8.00 125.00 1,000.00

i stand corrected.. this is a copy of my invoice.. came out to 3200 for other work, pulley, and the clutch plus install... what clutch are you suggesting for him?
 
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I am doing a budget upgrade to my car. I am doing the GT2 slave conversion with about 600 to 700 dollars worth of parts that I got from pelican. I have a spec stage 2+ clutch that I got for 900 dollars new. Some members here have had a good experience with this clutch, some of them with 18g turbos. It will be a month or two before I get my car going because I am doing a number of modifications at the same time, but you might consider this budget option.
 
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Originally Posted by brnrdtns View Post
I am doing a budget upgrade to my car. I am doing the GT2 slave conversion with about 600 to 700 dollars worth of parts that I got from pelican. I have a spec stage 2+ clutch that I got for 900 dollars new. Some members here have had a good experience with this clutch, some of them with 18g turbos. It will be a month or two before I get my car going because I am doing a number of modifications at the same time, but you might consider this budget option.
This sounds like a great option, and I love Pelican for parts, would you mind sharing your parts list? I am a bit concerned with my extra torque about the spec stage 2+, but definitely worth a look.
 

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