996 Turbo / GT2 Turbo discussion on previous model 2000-2005 Porsche 911 Twin Turbo and 911 GT2.

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Old Apr 21, 2013 | 10:55 AM
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not to bad this idea...

the motor compartment fan does a lot against heat soaking..

i tested my car and at low speed and my compartment temp without a fan was to high...so i can imagine that a fan at the ic can avoid heat soaking
 

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Old Apr 21, 2013 | 11:08 AM
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I have talked to a few Master Porsche Techs at our PCA gatherings about our IC ducts not being effective after 160mph as a member indicated..
The Techs said that Porsche has did all the wind tunnel work/data to prove they are effective without any doubts because how they were developed and used on the GT2's??..
 
Old Apr 21, 2013 | 11:10 AM
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Oh I'm just pointing out that BHT doesn't know what he's talking about as I usually do when he is making crap up.

I expect there is absolutely no reason for a fan at low but particularly high speed. I am sure Porsche did plenty of aerodynamic testing at speeds at least to factory top speeds. Just think how fast that fan would have to turn at 180mph to actually increase what is already being funneled through.


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More like... it would work for low speeds where very little air is being pushed across the IC
Little air flow does not mean the air flow is insufficient.

At low speeds there is no boost being made so the IAT is not raised and the little air flow is not affecting IAT.

Before I mod'd the stock Turbo's IC ducting I'd like to see IAT readings taken at various speeds/boost levels to see if there even was a problem.

My take is there is not.

At 168mph in the hot AZ summer heat my 03 Turbo didn't appear to suffer from any lack of intercooler cooling capacity.
 
Old Apr 21, 2013 | 11:12 AM
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Bbywu nailed it too. Removing your ductwork is counterintuitive and trendy.
 
Old Apr 21, 2013 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by bbywu
If your ICs are big, and you have modded ore removed the ducting, you have disrupted the Venturi effect that draws air into the side vent.

Most people think the air just simply flows over the intercoolers. The long narrow channel that opens into a wide bottom by the rear bumper creates a Venturi tube that draws air by creating a pressure differential.

I think this is why your seeing inefficiencies when the IC gets heat soaked.
i have 4.5" i/c on mine and still have the upper and lower ductwork in place. just need to trim 1/2" of the middle of the upper and the edging off the lower. reglassed the upper to seal it and new weatherstripping all around. install and remove it as 1 whole unit with the main frame. works great!
 
Old Apr 21, 2013 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by pumptech
Bbywu nailed it too. Removing your ductwork is counterintuitive and trendy.
I agree, bbywu and other seemingly knowledgeable and trustworthy folks have repeatedly pointed out (or at least surmised) that the upper and lower IC ducting is critical for maintaining proper airflow through the 996TT's IC cores.

Until someone who uses the upper and lower ducting with a high quality aftermarket IC and still manages to record/datalog an IAT spike after 160 MPH, I'm inclined to believe that the high-speed IC inefficiency some folks are experiencing is being caused by the removal of critical IC ducting parts which appears to actually be reducing their efficiency and performance. Just a hunch though.
 
Old Apr 21, 2013 | 01:01 PM
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Bbywu nailed it too. Removing your ductwork is counterintuitive and trendy.
Yep ! No reason why it should be taken out .
 
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Originally Posted by pumptech
Oh I'm just pointing out that BHT doesn't know what he's talking about as I usually do when he is making crap up.

I expect there is absolutely no reason for a fan at low but particularly high speed. I am sure Porsche did plenty of aerodynamic testing at speeds at least to factory top speeds. Just think how fast that fan would have to turn at 180mph to actually increase what is already being funneled through.
Hey, troll. Do you even know what IATs rise to during a 200+mph run? Why don't you show us some of your extensive knowledge at the next race event.
 

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Old Apr 21, 2013 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackHorseTurbo
Right, I would think they would be affective below 30 and above 160. I have kicked the idea around.

righttt...... was that idea kicked around before or after frosting your coolers with nitrous?




BUT I THINK THIS WHAT WAS REALY GOING ON IN TODD's HEAD

 

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Old Apr 21, 2013 | 04:32 PM
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Once again....im not gonna go spend $100,000 on motor, transmission and goodies to prove anything to you. All you did was buy a car that's already fast. You got me!! Your car is faster than mine!! I still am convinced you rarely know what u are talking about and regurgitate the rest of the time. Proof is in your first statement about the fans...lol...


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Oh I'm just pointing out that BHT doesn't know what he's talking about as I usually do when he is making crap up.

I expect there is absolutely no reason for a fan at low but particularly high speed. I am sure Porsche did plenty of aerodynamic testing at speeds at least to factory top speeds. Just think how fast that fan would have to turn at 180mph to actually increase what is already being funneled through.
Hey, troll. Do you even know what IATs rise to during a 200+mph run? Why don't you show us some of your extensive knowledge at the next race event.
 
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Originally Posted by pumptech
Once again....im not gonna go spend $100,000 on motor, transmission and goodies to prove anything to you. All you did was buy a car that's already fast. You got me!! Your car is faster than mine!! I still am convinced you rarely know what u are talking about and regurgitate the rest of the time. Proof is in your first statement about the fans...lol...
Sigh. You're simply a bench racer. Nothing more. Go back to the garage and change your oil. I'll see you in the REAL WORLD. Haha.
 
Old Apr 21, 2013 | 06:20 PM
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Lol...how many quarts is it again?? That's right you don't know how to change the oil...lol
 
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Com'on guys, can't we just have a discussion about the cars without going after each other personally?
 
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Yeh I'm out
 
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whats funny is they are only minuites away from each other to settle this dispute on the mean streets of h-town (i mean mexico!!!) LOL

break out the go-pro's !!!
 


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