60-130 requests (Stock and Flashed 6-speeds)
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I have no traction issues during 60-130 runs. Even in this cold.
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I know. lol
Ran the car in crazy hot temps and it ran 12.0 at 118mph. Ran it later in nice cool weather and it ran 11.9 at 118mph when everyone else who was with me the first time out cut half a second and added 5mph to their times in the cooler weather. This led me to think something was up so I bought a Pbox to test 60-130 and I have no idea if my results are normal for my mods or not. lol
I did a boost leak test and it came up clean. Now I am thinking if something is wrong maybe it is the MAF?
Ran the car in crazy hot temps and it ran 12.0 at 118mph. Ran it later in nice cool weather and it ran 11.9 at 118mph when everyone else who was with me the first time out cut half a second and added 5mph to their times in the cooler weather. This led me to think something was up so I bought a Pbox to test 60-130 and I have no idea if my results are normal for my mods or not. lol
I did a boost leak test and it came up clean. Now I am thinking if something is wrong maybe it is the MAF?
I wonder why I don't have these traction problems that others encounter with lower HP/TQ then me? Maybe all the dynos I have been on are wrong..LOL..
I have no traction problems with my 18g set-up on 93 pump gas at my best sweet spot to race on the street,,,thats at about 40-45mph ,2nd gear >3,800-4,000 rpm punch...
I have no traction problems with my 18g set-up on 93 pump gas at my best sweet spot to race on the street,,,thats at about 40-45mph ,2nd gear >3,800-4,000 rpm punch...
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Thanks. I searched till I was blue in the face but couldn't font what a 996 turbo runs 60-130 stock. The few that did chime in though said a flashed car with exhaust should run low nines though???
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Is your car a k16 car or a K24 turbo'ed car?
My uncle has a K24 (X50) 911 with BMC drop in filter, Forged DV and a 1-1.1 BAR tune. With two people in the car (I weight 180lbs, my uncle 150lbs) we averaged 9.4 60-130 times with temps around 75f.
My car does 7.45 with the mods below with out any tricks ie. no brake boosting (even though when I run people I definitely do), not driven down on a 3% decline, not only when it is cold out, full lift shifting etc..
I think your times is where you need to be. You mentioned that when you went to the track and it was cold out that others picked MPH and dropped times by .5 and you didn't. All that means is that your car is not tuned on the ragged edge and is consistent in most conditions and that is not necessarily a bad thing, but the way Porsche (and all manufactured cars for that matter) would want ther car to run!
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My uncle has a K24 (X50) 911 with BMC drop in filter, Forged DV and a 1-1.1 BAR tune. With two people in the car (I weight 180lbs, my uncle 150lbs) we averaged 9.4 60-130 times with temps around 75f.
My car does 7.45 with the mods below with out any tricks ie. no brake boosting (even though when I run people I definitely do), not driven down on a 3% decline, not only when it is cold out, full lift shifting etc..
I think your times is where you need to be. You mentioned that when you went to the track and it was cold out that others picked MPH and dropped times by .5 and you didn't. All that means is that your car is not tuned on the ragged edge and is consistent in most conditions and that is not necessarily a bad thing, but the way Porsche (and all manufactured cars for that matter) would want ther car to run!
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The car is a K16 car (non X50).
The only issue with the 1/4 mile runs is I would think with a tune and exhaust I would run faster than all the published times for a stock 996 Turbo. Also Turbo cars love cool crisp air no matter how it is tuned. One would think that when going from 104 degrees with high humidity to 63 degrees with no humidity there would be a noticable difference.
The only issue with the 1/4 mile runs is I would think with a tune and exhaust I would run faster than all the published times for a stock 996 Turbo. Also Turbo cars love cool crisp air no matter how it is tuned. One would think that when going from 104 degrees with high humidity to 63 degrees with no humidity there would be a noticable difference.
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I think many years back Titan Motor Sports did 120mph with flash and STRAIGHT pipes, so you being off by 2mph makes sense from straight pipes.
I have learned that "published" times do not hold much weight to the real world or real street times.
Every car I can think of almost never drives the same times as the mags that are driven by professionals, perfect conditions, aligned with the moon gravitational pull etc.
IE: we V-BOXED my brothers 12 S4 DSG and it did 13.3 @ 104mph WITH INTAKE AND CAT BACK vs stock mags that I have seen 12.9 @ up to 110mph STOCK! You can't not tell me driver error as how can you messup a lower power car with AWD and a AUTOMATIC DSG!
As I look at the 60-130 times here in the 60-130 section, I see stock Zr1's doing 60-130 in 7.2's and Zo6's in the 7.7, but in real world on the streets I would put some good distance between the ZR1 (at least 1 to 2 BUSES, ask me how I know) and the Z06 is not even on my radar and I pull "ONLY" 7.45!
I VBOXED 128mph, but pulled very solidly a 134mph Mustang by 4-5 cars on the streets (711RWHP dyno) again and again and his friends 133+trap SHELBY'S! 2013 GTR with intake,exhaust,DV,etc: we did a highway pull and he should be trapping 128-130's, I drug him so hard from 3rd to middle of 5th (2 busses) and that was two or three times! I have many other stories of my "little" k16's (Billets) with only 7.45 60-130 and 128 traps (VBOX, crap launch being I do not rape my car @ 11.59) taking down cars the on paper I was not supposed to.
The bottom line of what I am trying to say is that I guarantee you if a stock 911 Turbo came up to you or alot of these car that are getting better "mag" times then you, you would pull them very well in the real world and on the streets!
Sorry for the ramble, I just do not like when others are chasing a Fairy tail times that was run in a test tubes and beating them selfs over it.....I got tired of doing it my self and realized just line them up in the real world and you would see how well your car is REALLY pulling!
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I have learned that "published" times do not hold much weight to the real world or real street times.
Every car I can think of almost never drives the same times as the mags that are driven by professionals, perfect conditions, aligned with the moon gravitational pull etc.
IE: we V-BOXED my brothers 12 S4 DSG and it did 13.3 @ 104mph WITH INTAKE AND CAT BACK vs stock mags that I have seen 12.9 @ up to 110mph STOCK! You can't not tell me driver error as how can you messup a lower power car with AWD and a AUTOMATIC DSG!
As I look at the 60-130 times here in the 60-130 section, I see stock Zr1's doing 60-130 in 7.2's and Zo6's in the 7.7, but in real world on the streets I would put some good distance between the ZR1 (at least 1 to 2 BUSES, ask me how I know) and the Z06 is not even on my radar and I pull "ONLY" 7.45!
I VBOXED 128mph, but pulled very solidly a 134mph Mustang by 4-5 cars on the streets (711RWHP dyno) again and again and his friends 133+trap SHELBY'S! 2013 GTR with intake,exhaust,DV,etc: we did a highway pull and he should be trapping 128-130's, I drug him so hard from 3rd to middle of 5th (2 busses) and that was two or three times! I have many other stories of my "little" k16's (Billets) with only 7.45 60-130 and 128 traps (VBOX, crap launch being I do not rape my car @ 11.59) taking down cars the on paper I was not supposed to.
The bottom line of what I am trying to say is that I guarantee you if a stock 911 Turbo came up to you or alot of these car that are getting better "mag" times then you, you would pull them very well in the real world and on the streets!
Sorry for the ramble, I just do not like when others are chasing a Fairy tail times that was run in a test tubes and beating them selfs over it.....I got tired of doing it my self and realized just line them up in the real world and you would see how well your car is REALLY pulling!
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Bobby Ali
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The car is a K16 car (non X50).
The only issue with the 1/4 mile runs is I would think with a tune and exhaust I would run faster than all the published times for a stock 996 Turbo. Also Turbo cars love cool crisp air no matter how it is tuned. One would think that when going from 104 degrees with high humidity to 63 degrees with no humidity there would be a noticable difference.
The only issue with the 1/4 mile runs is I would think with a tune and exhaust I would run faster than all the published times for a stock 996 Turbo. Also Turbo cars love cool crisp air no matter how it is tuned. One would think that when going from 104 degrees with high humidity to 63 degrees with no humidity there would be a noticable difference.
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Stock 2001 996tt 12.7 seconds 60-130mph.
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I concur with Bobby's summation as well. I was trying to think about when I started doing 60-130's. I also had a hard time trying to figure out what my car should run. I now recall buying my car, and within a week, flashing it with an exhaust, which lasted another 2 weeks, at which time my stock clutch went, which was when I bought some K24's, sent them out for an 18g massage, etc...
Fast forward a week or two, when I have 18g's, injectors along with the previous FVD exhaust. This was when I finally bought a Pbox. First time I ever ran a 60-130, it was in the mid 7's with the above mods. I expected faster of course, but it was what it was. With practice I finally ran into the mid 6's, at a 6.61. I added meth and went 6.1 and then started losing weight (the car, not me) and went 5.99. Point is, I am not a great driver, but with practice, I learned my car and how to drive it. You can and will do the same.
Fast forward a week or two, when I have 18g's, injectors along with the previous FVD exhaust. This was when I finally bought a Pbox. First time I ever ran a 60-130, it was in the mid 7's with the above mods. I expected faster of course, but it was what it was. With practice I finally ran into the mid 6's, at a 6.61. I added meth and went 6.1 and then started losing weight (the car, not me) and went 5.99. Point is, I am not a great driver, but with practice, I learned my car and how to drive it. You can and will do the same.
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I concur with Bobby's summation as well. I was trying to think about when I started doing 60-130's. I also had a hard time trying to figure out what my car should run. I now recall buying my car, and within a week, flashing it with an exhaust, which lasted another 2 weeks, at which time my stock clutch went, which was when I bought some K24's, sent them out for an 18g massage, etc...
Fast forward a week or two, when I have 18g's, injectors along with the previous FVD exhaust. This was when I finally bought a Pbox. First time I ever ran a 60-130, it was in the mid 7's with the above mods. I expected faster of course, but it was what it was. With practice I finally ran into the mid 6's, at a 6.61. I added meth and went 6.1 and then started losing weight (the car, not me) and went 5.99. Point is, I am not a great driver, but with practice, I learned my car and how to drive it. You can and will do the same.
Fast forward a week or two, when I have 18g's, injectors along with the previous FVD exhaust. This was when I finally bought a Pbox. First time I ever ran a 60-130, it was in the mid 7's with the above mods. I expected faster of course, but it was what it was. With practice I finally ran into the mid 6's, at a 6.61. I added meth and went 6.1 and then started losing weight (the car, not me) and went 5.99. Point is, I am not a great driver, but with practice, I learned my car and how to drive it. You can and will do the same.
Too much on your mind, brother.
Back when we first met(you lucky guy, you!!
) you borrowed my Pbox and ran an initial 7.5 or so on 18gs.With practice, you improved quick, as did I.
I knocked over 6 tenths off by just practicing the runs.
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Mike, I think you may be mistaken.
Too much on your mind, brother.
Back when we first met(you lucky guy, you!!) you borrowed my Pbox and ran an initial 7.5 or so on 18gs.
With practice, you improved quick, as did I.
I knocked over 6 tenths off by just practicing the runs.
Too much on your mind, brother.
Back when we first met(you lucky guy, you!!
) you borrowed my Pbox and ran an initial 7.5 or so on 18gs.With practice, you improved quick, as did I.
I knocked over 6 tenths off by just practicing the runs.
I concur with Bobby's summation as well. I was trying to think about when I started doing 60-130's. I also had a hard time trying to figure out what my car should run. I now recall buying my car, and within a week, flashing it with an exhaust, which lasted another 2 weeks, at which time my stock clutch went, which was when I bought some K24's, sent them out for an 18g massage, etc...
Fast forward a week or two, when I have 18g's, injectors along with the previous FVD exhaust. This was when I finally bought a Pbox. First time I ever ran a 60-130, it was in the mid 7's with the above mods. I expected faster of course, but it was what it was. With practice I finally ran into the mid 6's, at a 6.61. I added meth and went 6.1 and then started losing weight (the car, not me) and went 5.99. Point is, I am not a great driver, but with practice, I learned my car and how to drive it. You can and will do the same.
Fast forward a week or two, when I have 18g's, injectors along with the previous FVD exhaust. This was when I finally bought a Pbox. First time I ever ran a 60-130, it was in the mid 7's with the above mods. I expected faster of course, but it was what it was. With practice I finally ran into the mid 6's, at a 6.61. I added meth and went 6.1 and then started losing weight (the car, not me) and went 5.99. Point is, I am not a great driver, but with practice, I learned my car and how to drive it. You can and will do the same.