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Old Jan 24, 2014 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by PoidaGT
Thanks Saint, love your 996 GT2 setup.

I wasn't sure if there were any other Aussie 996tt members here.

Once I get my 996tt i'll hit you up for local tips here in Oz for reliable Porsche workshops etc.

I have been reading a lot of the posts on this forum to help guide me in choosing the right 996tt.

Most of the 996tt's in Oz are tiptronics and the manuals are a fair bit more.
I have my heart set a black one but would settle for white if the price was right.
Thanks mate lot of research and hours gone in as always with modding. Just don't get carried away with hp numbers...Aussie vs US you'll be disappointed. Look more at the hardware and go from there. I am 99% track use and my setup is built around this.

MT are hard to find. Finding a clean one low ks will be hard.
 
Old Jan 24, 2014 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by PoidaGT
I would be interested to know how much headers and intake upgrades improve spool rate with K16 billets or GT28's etc.
headers are not worth it intake is not much improvement either but inlet hoses are a decent improvement.

exhaust, tune, inlet hoses k16 billets, billet diverters, and some intercoolers you'd have a quick car and alot of fun.
 

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Old Jan 24, 2014 | 09:34 PM
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Welcome!

Second everything Saintly said.

I went with Kevin at UMW and I believe Saintly has as well in the past, can't say enough about him and his tune. My 996 runs his K16 housing zero clearance turbos and has better low down response and higher top end than stock. It traps 127 mph at WSID (Sydney Dragway) and put down 345kw at all 4 with the A/C on at the last dyno day at Advan in Sydney.

Good luck on finding a nice 996 and finding a tuning package for it! The fun begins! Where are you located? How much are you looking to spend and how quickly are you ready to move for a white/black manual 996TT?
 

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Old Jan 25, 2014 | 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by 1q2w3e4r
Welcome!

Second everything Saintly said.

I went with Kevin at UMW and I believe Saintly has as well in the past, can't say enough about him and his tune. My 996 runs his K16 housing zero clearance turbos and has better low down response and higher top end than stock. It traps 127 mph at WSID (Sydney Dragway) and put down 345kw at all 4 with the A/C on at the last dyno day at Advan in Sydney.

Good luck on finding a nice 996 and finding a tuning package for it! The fun begins! Where are you located? How much are you looking to spend and how quickly are you ready to move for a white/black manual 996TT?
I'm located in the Hills district.
I missed a very low km manual (yellow) 996tt recently that was for Sale in South Oz.
It was a private import from the UK (one owner) and it had been tuned.
It went for a bargain as the owner had to go urgently back to the UK ($65,000)
My budget is around $80 to $85,000 which won't get me a low km 996tt in the current market.
I have been keeping an eye on the 996tt market for several years and the prices have gradually been coming down to my affordability realms.
It wasn't too long ago when the cheapest 996 turbos were going for $120,000
I don't think the low end ones will drop too much further in price in the next 12 months.
My mortgage is close to being payed off and I told the wife a Porsche 996tt was inevitable.
My first drive of a 996tt was at the Porsche driving experience at Mt Cotton in 2002.
I knew after that day I had to have one.


 

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Old Jan 25, 2014 | 03:25 AM
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Originally Posted by OS Inspector
headers are not worth it intake is not much improvement either but inlet hoses are a decent improvement.

exhaust, tune, inlet hoses k16 billets, billet diverters, and some intercoolers you'd have a quick car and alot of fun.
Would you say that the inlet pipes could potentially increase turbo spool rate by 200 to 300rpm?

Can you upgrade the inlet pipes easily without dropping the engine?
 
Old Jan 25, 2014 | 04:45 AM
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Originally Posted by MC968CS
Hi, I don't think on a 996TT engine, with that sort of HP goal, will need big turbos, that have lag. 600hp at the engine is actually quite a lot too down under, and the cars aren't that heavy vs lots of other cars that run that hp.

I run slightly larger than factory turbos on my gt2 996. Add tune, exhaust, fuel system, AFM and it is basically a ballistic car with no issue re lag; by 3000 it's going hard, by 4000 you won't have time to look at gauges. In my case I found investing in the tune (by PRTech) really brought the hardware together in a great way. I can't say enough how much difference the tune makes. Huge.

Are you joining the NSW porsche club? I'll be out at the pending Motorkana if you want to talk. I'm driving a white 968CS that day.
The hardware in the US is much better value than Australia.
I have bought quite a few go fast bits from the states before and it all worked out pretty well.
I'm not overly keen to ship turbos and ECUs over to the states to get worked on though. It would be a nightmare if the parts went missing.
My preference is to get the best value parts from overseas and have a local workshop fit them then dyno tune the car.
I'm not chasing a specific HP readout however it always helps with bragging rights at the pub.
I'm more interested in improving overall drivability by increasing torque across a wider rev range, improving top end performance without creating lag, better grip and cornering performance and overall power down.
My friends 997 turbo has had about $25K spent on engine and suspension mods which is a lot more performance than what I need (initially )
 
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Originally Posted by PoidaGT
Would you say that the inlet pipes could potentially increase turbo spool rate by 200 to 300rpm?

Can you upgrade the inlet pipes easily without dropping the engine?
yes it does help with spool.

it can be done without dropping the engine but you have to cut the stock inlet plenum to do so. it has been done by many but you cant return to stock unless you repurchased those parts.

i have a core inlet plenum if you need it to send to one of the vendors that makes the inlet pipes.

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Originally Posted by OS Inspector
yes it does help with spool.

it can be done without dropping the engine but you have to cut the stock inlet plenum to do so. it has been done by many but you cant return to stock unless you repurchased those parts.

i have a core inlet plenum if you need it to send to one of the vendors that makes the inlet pipes.

-W
Sounds like a tricky upgrade with the engine in.
I think I would wait until the engine had to be dropped then do a few other mods as well like injectors and fuel rails etc.


Thanks for the offer for the parts too!
 
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hey buddy,

I live on the Gold Coast

I have a Markski tuned 996T with k16 billets built in australia 911 tuning inlet pipes ipd plenum gemballa exhaust injectors 1 bar waste gates 3.5" coolers and heaps more. Over the years I have spent heaps, my car is very quick with maybe a little more to come which i really dont need in aussie with the go slow speed limits.

In my honest opinion and if I had the opportunity to do it again I would go with a Markski 911 tuning stage 4 if i got a car with k24's or a stage 3 if i got k16's plus injectors and a sachs clutch and gt2 clutch conversion just have the turbos built in aussie place on the Gold Coast did mine.

If you want to know more about what u getting into PM me and if u on the Gold Coast any time Im home Ill take you for a run and show u.

Cheers,
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Originally Posted by timccloud
hey buddy,

I live on the Gold Coast

I have a Markski tuned 996T with k16 billets built in australia 911 tuning inlet pipes ipd plenum gemballa exhaust injectors 1 bar waste gates 3.5" coolers and heaps more. Over the years I have spent heaps, my car is very quick with maybe a little more to come which i really dont need in aussie with the go slow speed limits.

In my honest opinion and if I had the opportunity to do it again I would go with a Markski 911 tuning stage 4 if i got a car with k24's or a stage 3 if i got k16's plus injectors and a sachs clutch and gt2 clutch conversion just have the turbos built in aussie place on the Gold Coast did mine.

If you want to know more about what u getting into PM me and if u on the Gold Coast any time Im home Ill take you for a run and show u.

Cheers,
Tim
Awesome. Thanks Tim.
I wasn't really sure how the US tuners load programs into your ECU and wether they had 98 Octane Maps available.
All of my built cars have been dyno tuned with the factory ECU re-calibrated for the mods.
Do you plug your laptop into ECU and upload a new map?
 
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Originally Posted by 1q2w3e4r
Welcome!

Second everything Saintly said.

I went with Kevin at UMW and I believe Saintly has as well in the past, can't say enough about him and his tune. My 996 runs his K16 housing zero clearance turbos and has better low down response and higher top end than stock. It traps 127 mph at WSID (Sydney Dragway) and put down 345kw at all 4 with the A/C on at the last dyno day at Advan in Sydney.
The UMW website seems to be broken.
I haven't come across Zero clearance turbos before and am very interested in the concept.
I'll keep trying the website to see what Kevin offers.
 
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Originally Posted by PoidaGT
The UMW website seems to be broken.
I haven't come across Zero clearance turbos before and am very interested in the concept.
I'll keep trying the website to see what Kevin offers.
He has never bothered to finish his website. His turbo's are great pieces of work. Your better off emailing or calling him when the time comes. I have all his hardware and I have zero complaints! Just my 2cents.
 
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Originally Posted by timccloud
hey buddy,

I live on the Gold Coast

I have a Markski tuned 996T with k16 billets built in australia 911 tuning inlet pipes ipd plenum gemballa exhaust injectors 1 bar waste gates 3.5" coolers and heaps more. Over the years I have spent heaps, my car is very quick with maybe a little more to come which i really dont need in aussie with the go slow speed limits.

In my honest opinion and if I had the opportunity to do it again I would go with a Markski 911 tuning stage 4 if i got a car with k24's or a stage 3 if i got k16's plus injectors and a sachs clutch and gt2 clutch conversion just have the turbos built in aussie place on the Gold Coast did mine.

If you want to know more about what u getting into PM me and if u on the Gold Coast any time Im home Ill take you for a run and show u.

Cheers,
Tim
Tim, any power or performance figure's from your mods?
 
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Originally Posted by PoidaGT
Awesome. Thanks Tim.
I wasn't really sure how the US tuners load programs into your ECU and wether they had 98 Octane Maps available.
All of my built cars have been dyno tuned with the factory ECU re-calibrated for the mods.
Do you plug your laptop into ECU and upload a new map?
yes mate plug in laptop with a durametric cable and upload your protomotive tune

 
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Tim, any power or performance figure's from your mods?
no not yet but its a lot 550+hp and 600+ torques atw I guess.

its a lot more than i had before which was 400hp and 640 torques atw i think my old dyno sheet is on my profile

after high flowing turbos fitting inlet pipes injectors and marks tune the car is insane

 


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