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Old Mar 22, 2014 | 06:54 PM
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This is an interesting thread. I'm also curious how old some of you guys are... a few of you have your ages listed for your profile, but not all. My father used to have a 930 in the mid 90's. While I enjoyed riding in and driving that car, I think the "dream" of having a 930 is far better than the reality of having one LOL.

When I got my 996t a couple years ago, my father wanted to go for a ride and drive it a bit. He was stunned with the power it had, coupled with its easy daily driver status. Said it was a better car than his 930 in every way, except one... Thinking about having a 930 made him feel young again. Seeing his son driving his own turbo made him feel old and outdated haha
 
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It was my dream car since I was a kid and I finally owned one in the mid 90's, when I was in my mid 30's. Been there done that...I'm good. If I was filthy rich, I would buy a nice one and just keep it in a time capsule. For me, the dream of owning it was far greater than the reality of owning it.
 
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I had been watching the same car.

I am not surprised it sold given the price and market conditions.

Like many others, I don't see a 930 as a replacement for a 996 Turbo, unless the 996 is a weekend/occasional use vehicle.

I drive my 996 too much and in conditions that would not be appropriate for an older RWD. I could not have put 49,800 miles on a 930 in the last 22 months. (48,000 miles in 18 months, 1800 over the last 4 as I eek out the last bit of my CPO warranty).

I can stomach driving the 996 in the winter, but a 930 would be stored like my NSX and M5.

I hope to pick one up in the next 1-2 years, but the current market makes it harder and harder to wait.

I can probably bite the bullet now if I have to, which seems to be becoming a better option than spending $20-30k more if I wait too long...decisions, decisions...
 
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As for the issue of Living the Dream with the cars of our youth, I for one am all in favor of it.

I am 37. I bought my first NSX in 2003 at age 26, a 1993 nearly identical my current 1991.

I had been in love with the E28 M5 since I was 9 years old, but went with the NSX that stole my heart when I was 13.

I came close to buying the E28 back in 2002-03, but it was too close in feel and performance to my daily-driver, a modified E36 325i, and I wanted more.

I came back to the M5 because I wanted an old-school, visceral experience. When I finally got mine in 2008, it became an occasional driver and show car.

The smell, sound and feel of an old M5 offer a unique experience that a more capable vehicle, like the 2003 M3 it replaced, could not offer.

The 930 is the same. If you are looking for the experience, to immerse yourself in a legend, a 996 will never do. While such things are sentimental, in the end there is little else that matters to those who crave the sensation. It is an emotive experience, beyond logic and thankfully so.

That is why I and others will always covet the cars of our youth.

I ponder old S-class sedans and SEC coupes, Jaguars, M-cars and BMWs by the dozens, and on and on.

Give me an old AMG or Alpina over the latest, greatest 800 hp couch on wheels.
 
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As a daily i would not go to a 930. But as an investment i would totally go for the 930. the pre 2.7s and 930 prices have been making their moves upward. the 2.4s have a new range of $50,000 to 350,000 per yahoo hottest cars.

The 930s will see their day come when their prices will start to be ridiculous. Particularly non gray market.

I would prefer the 964 turbo but thats because it has more ammenties, technology and looks like the originally 911.
 
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As for the issue of Living the Dream with the cars of our youth, I for one am all in favor of it. I am 37. I bought my first NSX in 2003 at age 26, a 1993 nearly identical my current 1991. I had been in love with the E28 M5 since I was 9 years old, but went with the NSX that stole my heart when I was 13. I came close to buying the E28 back in 2002-03, but it was too close in feel and performance to my daily-driver, a modified E36 325i, and I wanted more. I came back to the M5 because I wanted an old-school, visceral experience. When I finally got mine in 2008, it became an occasional driver and show car. The smell, sound and feel of an old M5 offer a unique experience that a more capable vehicle, like the 2003 M3 it replaced, could not offer. The 930 is the same. If you are looking for the experience, to immerse yourself in a legend, a 996 will never do. While such things are sentimental, in the end there is little else that matters to those who crave the sensation. It is an emotive experience, beyond logic and thankfully so. That is why I and others will always covet the cars of our youth. I ponder old S-class sedans and SEC coupes, Jaguars, M-cars and BMWs by the dozens, and on and on. Give me an old AMG or Alpina over the latest, greatest 800 hp couch on wheels.
Kinda lie banging your high school popular chick that would never talk to you. But in the end it is all short lived. After the youthful indulgence is fulfilled then all you have is the meat and potatoes of how the car performs. For me it was the testarossa. And the car was far less than my youthful imagination made it to be. It when you drive the car it doesn't speak to you in some way, than that is not the right car.
 
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I am pretty fortunate in that I currently have both. My 930 has larger turbo, larger intercooler, exhaust, cams and a fuel enrichment system. My 996TT just has exhaust and tuning although the suspension and brakes are upgraded.

That said, I drive the 996TT for the track, to work, some road trips, etc. As you know it is very fast but also very driveable. In a word, it is a an easy modern car that is wickedly fast.

When I drive the 930 it is a bit more special. It is raw, it is loud, it makes all the right noises and hits all the right synapses. It is a true European muscle car and I have a sense of satisfaction in it that I never get in the 996TT.

If I had to choose 1 it would be an easy choice. While I like the option of tracking my car and having the modern amenities for longer trips you can get nearly the same experience with a super fast 4 door as you would with the 996TT. You cannot get the 930 experience from anything else except another 930.
 
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Originally Posted by M BADGER
I had been watching the same car.

I am not surprised it sold given the price and market conditions.

Like many others, I don't see a 930 as a replacement for a 996 Turbo, unless the 996 is a weekend/occasional use vehicle.

I drive my 996 too much and in conditions that would not be appropriate for an older RWD. I could not have put 49,800 miles on a 930 in the last 22 months. (48,000 miles in 18 months, 1800 over the last 4 as I eek out the last bit of my CPO warranty).

I can stomach driving the 996 in the winter, but a 930 would be stored like my NSX and M5.

I hope to pick one up in the next 1-2 years, but the current market makes it harder and harder to wait.

I can probably bite the bullet now if I have to, which seems to be becoming a better option than spending $20-30k more if I wait too long...decisions, decisions...
There's a 964 Turbo on Mannheim right now too. IMO, they're asking about $20k too much, but good for them if they can get it.
 
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996 in 5 years is the 930 of the last 5 years....
 
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