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Old Sep 18, 2005 | 12:43 AM
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Who wants to read a funny *** story about my trip to the dodge dealer?

so first off, let me say that i was jsut goign to the dodge dealer to pick up my sunpass (highway toll sensor), not anything else. HOw it got there is another story .


Anyway, pull up with the gt2 and park. 3 salesmen come out to see the car. 2 look it over and inspect it, quietly chatting to each other. THe other one "greets" me by saying, "oh the new S will beat that car."
Here is how the rest of the convo goes:

And I say, "what?," "what S?"
Him: THe new S that porsche makes.
Me: Umm the carrera S?
Him: yes.
me: Umm the carrera S wont touch this car.
Him: are you sure? THe S will definitely beat this car.
Me: the only porsche that will really touch this car is the Carrera GT.
Him: which one is that?
Me: The v10. the one that looks like a race car.
him: oh thats the one i meant.
Me: ok.
him: but it definitely wont beat a viper.
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this is where i totally lost it.

me: which viper? A twin turbo?
him: no a stock one.
me: you think a viper can beat a gt2 or a carrera gt?
him: well let me ask you this, can your car do 80 in first?
me: nope. but it doesnt have the most inefficient 8.3 liter v10 engine ever made. I'm done talkign to you about this, i just want to get my sunpass and leave. thanks.



WOW! it was frustrating and at the same time. Anyone else experience **** like this? I cant believe his sales greeting was to bash my car and then he reached to shake my hand.

-jon
 
Old Sep 18, 2005 | 01:27 AM
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The people that don't know $hit and think they do are the worst. It's not worth the time.
They probably got brained washed too much into believing in what they sell.
 
Old Sep 18, 2005 | 02:26 AM
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What an ignorant moron!! I can't stand haters!

I'll just laugh it off...
 
Old Sep 18, 2005 | 02:29 AM
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that is a funny story. you should have taken the idiot for a ride and had him wetting his pants.
 
Old Sep 18, 2005 | 04:47 AM
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Should've offered to race him for pinks.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2005 | 07:10 AM
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Had a similar experience a long time ago...brother and I wanted to look at some SUV's and pulled into an exotic car dealer in Toronto. They had a Range Rover we we interested in and the owner of the dealership happened to be there. Now, do you remember the Laforza SUV ? It was a short lived SUV that came out of Italy. This owner was convinced it was the best SUV ever, and when my brother voiced a preference for the range rover, this guy became agitated and made a complete *** out of himself. The guy gets up to my brother and says "how much money in your pocket ? Lets arm wrestle the difference " I kid you not, that is what he said

Well, we had intended to put a deposit on a car, and my brother pulls out a clip with $3k, the look of this chump's face was priceless....started mumbling and walked off...his sales staff were apologizing profusely and we just walked out laughing at the idiot.

Anyone know waht happened to the Laforza SUV ? exactly...
 
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I'd race you for pinks in a stock Viper. Let me know when.
 
Old Sep 18, 2005 | 08:14 AM
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Howdy!

You know, we chit-chat on these boards, but the "we" tend to be the enthusiasts that know more than 99% of the sale-drones and owners. Lot of people walk - sign the documents - and drive away, armed with whatever the sale-doofus told em. Funny story:

I ran up to Chilis to score our takeout (couple of years ago) - I was in my Supra (~750HP). I parked away from everyone a space away from a nice looking metallic grey Viper GTS. I get our stuff, come out and a guy and his buddy are standing by my car checking it out:

me: Hey, how's it going?

him: Good, just checking out the car, it's yours?

me: Yep! I parked over here when I noticed the Viper, yours?

him: Yep, just got it this week!

me: cool, nice color too! (my Supra was Graphite Grey Pearl so we complimented each other on our color selections)

him: So is that fast? You know, my Viper has a V10

me: Uh yeah, it's pretty quick - it dynoed as it sits at roughly 640 to the wheels. It's the stock 6-cylinder, 3 liter motor with a big aftermarket turbo, and lots of electronic management.

him: Oh a 6-cylinder, yeah, it looks great, but I figured my V10 would be faster.

me: Ummm, yeah, it's an inline 6 cylinder, but it's putting down about 750HP, and about 675lb/ft of torque.

him: I think I've raced a few of those, but my Viper was a lot faster since it has a V10.

me: (dinner getting cold, but willing to buy fresh at this point) - that's interesting - well, heck, let's take them up on JTB (me pointing) and do a little roll on, from oh heck, let's say 50mph? I win you buy me fresh Chili's, deal?

him: you want to race my Viper?

me: (getting in the car by this time) maybe not, I heard the V10 models are really fast....take it easy....

 
Old Sep 18, 2005 | 08:27 AM
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Back in my twenties I was a motorcycle NUT, and STUDIED the specs of everything that came in monthly magazines. I was in a different city visiting family and went into a local dealership and was immediately TACKLED by like three of these wannabe salesman trying to sell me something. I was just there looking, didn't want to be bothered, and quite frankly didn't have any money. So this one of the three ankle biters just followed me from bike to bike and tried to give me the specs of each one - all of them wrong. I ended up telling him to either get his facts straight or get out of my face. He got mad and "challenged" me to verify he was incorrect. I told him to go get a cycle magazine and try to prove me wrong. So he did and he could not do it. He got so mad at me because I kept calling him out on everything he was about to throw a swing at me. When he accused me of coming in just to cause trouble I went off and asked to see the sales manger or owner. The owner was the only one there so he came out. I told him how I just stopped to look around because I was bored and this joke of a salesman he hired basically is harrassing me because he either thought he was better than me or just wanted to pick on me. Well, it turns out this kid was the owner's son. The guy SMACKS the kid upside the head right in front of me and tells him to go wait in his office. He apologizes to me, tells me the kid's a moron, and gives me a Yamaha T-shirt to apologize. I left after that so I don't know what happened to the kid, but I suspect it wasn't the first time this kid has pissed off a customer........

I bought my last bike from a guy who was really on it, knew the specs and didn't try to belittle me. In that industry there is a BIG difference between the people who are serious about it and those who just need a job. It's stories like this that make the legitamite salesman look bad.
 
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Should've offered to race him for pinks.
Was thinkin' the same thing; that situation was just BEGGING for a race.
 
Old Sep 18, 2005 | 09:05 AM
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When I was looking to buy my Viper I visited a local dealership for a test drive, getting the test drive is a story unto itself, but I digress.

After a short drive, I explained to the salesman that the car was fast but not fast enough. I told him, especially at this altitude, the car really needed forced induction. He then proceeded to tell me that Vipers were turbo charged from the factory. He actually was convinced that the very Viper that we were driving was turbo charged.

I told him when we get back to the dealership I wanted him to show me the turbos. I told him if he could show me the turbos in this car, I would write a check on the spot and buy it.

I hurried back to the dealership, anxious to embarrass this idiot. When we got there, he opened the hood and spent several minutes trying to find just where those damn turbos were. While he was busy looking for the turbos, I called over one of the mechanics and asked the salesman to have the mechanic show me .... it was not pretty.

Needless to say, I did not drive home in that particular Viper.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2005 | 09:22 AM
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That reminds me of the people that judge a cars performance soley on how high the speedometer gauge goes. LMAO though, that guy will cry once he realizes how wrong he was.

Whats the newest viper do in the ring? Surely not 7:46.
 
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The old GTS, stock, does at 1:36.xx at Road Atlanta, a GT2 does 1:38.xx.

Vipers are fast.

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