I don't think the s2000 was considered a "super car" at its time, I was comparing to other comparable high performance cars.


Actually its only to 6500 thats my point I wish it was too 7000 or 7500.
The idea of the variable cam profiles is so it can have best of both worlds, it seems almost useless here. most cars that rev to 6-6500 usually have way more lowend way before 3000k.

 

Any v8. Lol

 

Yes, and most of them have sub 7k max rpm.
The V8s with over 7k rpm limit are usually weak/er down in the low rpm. with their peak torque over 6k.

I don't think a low peak rpm is a bad thing when the power band is large. And I don't think a high rpm is good if the power band is narrow.

The gearing is also very important. The gearing on our cars is pretty tight and is a good fit for the engine. Many big V8 cars with fat power band have stupid long gears ratios (cough cough GT500). That's not any better and should be included in the analysis of the power plant.

But a simple reflash is all it takes to get the redline over 7k on the 996tt if someone wants it. For me, it's just a number on the tach. How the car performs is what matters. And from 3k rpm to cutoff, it takes a very powerful car to keep up with a reflashed X50.

 

Well the cut off is not at 6500. It's 6800 (or 6750), but definitely not 6500.

Do you have example of cars with 6500rpm that have way more low end? The only that comes to mind is the Viper, but it has some 8l of displacement. So yeah, better have some low end. Any other engines in mind?

 

^ +1. 6750 and smart money raises to 7200 with a terrific band throughout.

but that little extra bit of headroom isn't lost on me.

 

The V10 in my M5 makes 80% of its peak torque or more from 3,250 rpm to 8,250 rpm. It's a pretty amazing motor. That's any amazing 5,000 rpm spread that still revs to over 8,000 to take advantage of gear multiplication.

Later, Steve

 

Like Vglante said, this is the characteristic of a regular v8 engine.

 

Should I add that those suggesting modern engines should look the date the 996tt went out? That car went out in 2001.

If you want to compare modern engine with it its a bit unfair. But even then, I think the little Metzger can still hold its own, especially a flashed one. And being 250rpm short of 7000rpm is not a big deal imho.

 

Well, the 2001 BMW M3 didn't have forced induction, so torque was a lot lower, but it made 80% of it's peak torque from approximately 2,000 rpm to almost 8,000 rpm and had an 8,000 rpm redline.

It's a little irrelevant, because that's not what the 911 turbo was built to be about. As others have said, that's why they built the GT3.

Later, Steve