996 Turbo / GT2 Turbo discussion on previous model 2000-2005 Porsche 911 Twin Turbo and 911 GT2.

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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 01:05 PM
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They are fit for the skip I'm afraid. Happened to my front PCCBs twice and now my rear PCCBs. The outer inch surface of my rears is now virtually missing:



I switched to the front 350mm GT3 steel discs a while ago as they are a straight swap and ran PCCB rears still (as do several cars in the UK). However the rears will still eventually go. Problem with GT3 discs, even Cup or Motorsport is they crack between the holes fairly quickly.

Brembo and Alcon make replacement front discs and Alcon are now producing rear replacments in 350mm as well. The first set of Alcon rears arrive in a few weeks. Both are full floating discs, which after initial purchase can have the rotor only replaced using existing bells to save on costs.

More info here (to save me re-typing it all):

http://www.stuttgartnines.co.uk/uplo...ighlight=alcon


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ups just showed up with new performance friction
rotors and hats and new pf97 pads


will post picture tonight as soon i apply them to the car


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i know u have good relationship with dealer why not get them to look at it first. if Porsche warranty the rotors u'll be getting Gen II PCCB discs. then u'll have new PCCB when resale. just a thought.
 
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Arling, good idea why not get repacements if possible. For some reason I have a feeling it will be a hard sale.

Question for you, Are second generation pccb's available for the GT2/3's? I was told the only 2nd gen was for turbos and 997's.
 
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i believe the difference is in the rotor hub but not the disc itself. therefore although the wheel carriers are different from GT cars than TT/C2S the discs are the same.
 
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i went to my local dealer and asked about new rotor
under warranty, they ran the vin and said that
the car originaly did not have pccb from the factory
so the factory warranty does not apply.


next i called pna and registerde a complaint
they said they will look in to it and repeated
about 10 times during the conversation that
rotors are not a warranty item.


will see what happends.

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did u buy the car with it or u put them on later? as all Porsche parts u buy from dealer u got 2 years warranty on them.
 
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Originally posted by calbobba996TT
i went to my local dealer and asked about new rotor
under warranty, they ran the vin and said that
the car originaly did not have pccb from the factory
so the factory warranty does not apply.


next i called pna and registerde a complaint
they said they will look in to it and repeated
about 10 times during the conversation that
rotors are not a warranty item.


will see what happends.

Boris
I don't know how they can since the car is originally a 996TT is it not? Like everyone else is saying, it's going to be a hard sell to actually warranty an item that was not actually sold with the car?
 
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Originally posted by sharkster
I don't know how they can since the car is originally a 996TT is it not? Like everyone else is saying, it's going to be a hard sell to actually warranty an item that was not actually sold with the car?

Thats exactly what I said, sorry Borris
 
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arling you are correct the Porsche parts do have a 2 year warranty but not sure about the "stipulations" to how the parts are installed. Factory replacement part to correct models etc..
 
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just got a call from pna regional manager
he said again that the rotora are not warranty item,
but he will look at them some time next week


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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 12:31 PM
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hard Sell!!!!

A HAH HAH HAH HAH.....MY big peeve with PCNA, actually Porsche AG! They're NOT giving a millemeter on this!

We know this has been an ongoing issue that P.A.G. isn't addressing.

Actually, it really is focused on cars that do weekend track events.
EVEN with the "green" pads, rotor lfe is GREATLY shortened.

When driving on street they seem to last (big deal)

I tell ALL my clients (now) to simply convert BEFORE destroying these "mantle pieces".

You know that the "997 cups" will be sold in US WITHOUT the "BigCrappyCruddyBrakes". Guess they're not too concerned about the "significant" weight increase in the corners. Couldn't be that "cup" guys would freak out every time they bought rotors, I mean every three minutes of run time!

Anyway-I think 6 Speed should post IN BIG NOTICE signs that this is a problem to address before going to track, NOT AFTER.
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Wow man that sucks, let us know what pads are best to use and your impressions, i thought about going the ceramic gt2 brake kit route on my 996tt ?!?
 
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Every national Cup series will continue with steels, with only the International Supercup series running PCCBs - thats what I have heard anyway............
 
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AND, Super/Carrera 997 "cups" get a "deal" on the rotor pricing.
AND, 997 cup cars better have mechanics intimately familiar with sequential gearbox service AND drivers who know how to shift it; lotta mo' money in maintenace over the 996 cup.
bottom line-PCCB is not for consistancy in racing.
 
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