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Old Nov 27, 2014 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Wealth Manager
The 12 inch rear matters on ride height and tire size. If you are on stock suspension and stock recommended tire size then there shouldn't be any issues.

With the gt2 the intercooler bracket is different then a 996tt, which means there is more room behind the fender to modify.

I am on JRZ coilovers and a fatter tire in the rear on 19x12 inch rears, I had to modify wheel fender liner, I melted it and molded it back also punched holes in it and pulled it back with zip ties. Overall it changes from case to case.
are you seeing different part #? I only see a single part # for the bracjket no specification as to gt2 or turbo
 
Old Nov 27, 2014 | 12:42 PM
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are you seeing different part #? I only see a single part # for the bracjket no specification as to gt2 or turbo
I forget which part exactly, but pretty sure the metal bars behind. Might be rs.
 

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Old Nov 27, 2014 | 12:57 PM
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I just remember looking into buying the brackets for when we were running into fitment issues. At that point I jjst raised rear ride hide and modified the liner and didn't need it.
 
Old Nov 27, 2014 | 02:57 PM
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brackets...see #36 for GT2 vs TT
 
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Old Nov 27, 2014 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Wealth Manager
The 12 inch rear matters on ride height and tire size. If you are on stock suspension and stock recommended tire size then there shouldn't be any issues.

With the gt2 the intercooler bracket is different then a 996tt, which means there is more room behind the fender to modify.

I am on JRZ coilovers and a fatter tire in the rear on 19x12 inch rears, I had to modify wheel fender liner, I melted it and molded it back also punched holes in it and pulled it back with zip ties. Overall it changes from case to case.
i bet you only needed to do that to accommodate a 19" on a 12". but that said, some rubbing issues will be present if running a 12 and a 315/30 especially if lowered. also depends on how you drive the car and sure it's case by case depending upon how the car is setup.

but when you say "a fatter" tire? how does that translate into a 19"? and of course a 315/30 isn't fatter for a gt2, but it is for a tt. of course. if running 315/30 AND lowered, you pretty much need to roll the fenders and that inner liner is gonna get rubbed once in a while like i mentioned before.

but 19's are just outa my league so i have no idea.
 
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305/35/19 in the rear and I was slammed on JRZ's.....
 
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i take it that's roughly equivalent to the 315/30/18 width? but yeah, no matter what ya do. 19's rub. either front OR rear. or they did for my brief and long ago experiment.
 
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Originally Posted by 993GT
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Guess I was right the brackets are different. I just had bad recollection to it because its been so long lol. Sucks getting old.


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i take it that's roughly equivalent to the 315/30/18 width? but yeah, no matter what ya do. 19's rub. either front OR rear. or they did for my brief and long ago experiment.
I am very bad with tires/rims, I just know I like low and big, doesn't usually go hand and hand lol.
 

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Old Nov 27, 2014 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 32krazy!
i put gt2 spec'd wheels on my tt with zero issues. didn't even roll the fenders. after 6 months of racing the car i had a small 6" long rub on the drivers side rear inner fender well. guessing it came from 5000 rpm launches!

fwiw don't give up on rennlist. theres some great info there and a few knowledgeable folks who don't use 6so. its a resource to be made the most of
I gave up on re--list because they have a high school mentality there and were rude over and over again and what seemed like moderator abuse and even the owner of the site joined in on the group abuse of people they didn't think were the "cool kids", in my opinion it's a horrible group of people and a horrible site. I'll never return to it.
 
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I gave up on re--list because they have a high school mentality there and were rude over and over again and what seemed like moderator abuse and even the owner of the site joined in on the group abuse of people they didn't think were the "cool kids", in my opinion it's a horrible group of people and a horrible site. I'll never return to it.
thats a shame. for me i find rennlist to lean more towards road racing and 6so to lean towards straight line racing. both sites have been helpful to me and i know many on here that visit there as well. the only thing i don't care for is the membership fee to see member to member sale ads

wealth manager I'm guessing the bracket in the pet catalog is an added piece? i don't remember seeing it when i took my brackets off to modify for 4.5" i/c. the large main bracket is all i had
 
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The bracket is #36 in my pics above, replaces the TT bracket and pulls the inner fender liner closer in.
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thats a shame. for me i find rennlist to lean more towards road racing and 6so to lean towards straight line racing. both sites have been helpful to me and i know many on here that visit there as well. the only thing i don't care for is the membership fee to see member to member sale ads

wealth manager I'm guessing the bracket in the pet catalog is an added piece? i don't remember seeing it when i took my brackets off to modify for 4.5" i/c. the large main bracket is all i had
 
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Originally Posted by Wealth Manager
The 12 inch rear matters on ride height and tire size. If you are on stock suspension and stock recommended tire size then there shouldn't be any issues.

With the gt2 the intercooler bracket is different then a 996tt, which means there is more room behind the fender to modify.

I am on JRZ coilovers and a fatter tire in the rear on 19x12 inch rears, I had to modify wheel fender liner, I melted it and molded it back also punched holes in it and pulled it back with zip ties. Overall it changes from case to case.
So I assume an S or X50 car have the GT2 intercoolers bracket.
 
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Originally Posted by Ursoboostd
So I assume an S or X50 car have the GT2 intercoolers bracket.
No. That is a false assumption. Only GT2 has the shorter bracket. The reason that the shorter bracket creates slightly more room is that is attaches the liner on the side instead of down by the IC hose. Here is a picture of the GT2 brackets on my car. The TT and GT2 fender liners are the same except there is a hole drilled in the side of the TT liner to accommodate the GT2 bracket. The part #36 that Rob mentions above is correct. It is a direct bolt on to the TT. If I recall, the brackets are about $70 each.

As far as rubbing, I run large rear tires (305/30/19 and 315/35/18) both of which are 26.3 and 26.4" tall, which is almost 1" taller than GT2 sizes. I run 19x12 and 18x12 wheel of ET40 offset. Fenders came rolled from RUF. Camber is -2.4. I have no rubbing whatsoever and I am running at a ride height of 96/120 (about 1/2" lower than GT2 height) on JRZ Pro shocks with fairly stiff springs. I can get away with this since motorsport shocks have a much shorter stroke than a street shock. I doubt this set up would work with street springs and shocks as you would probably be rubbing at the top of the fender liner under heavy compression due to the larger diameter tire. My tires tuck under the fenders slightly at static ride height.

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Originally Posted by pcarj
I gave up on re--list because they have a high school mentality there and were rude over and over again and what seemed like moderator abuse and even the owner of the site joined in on the group abuse of people they didn't think were the "cool kids", in my opinion it's a horrible group of people and a horrible site. I'll never return to it.
I'm a renlister and find that site more of a drivers forum, especially the GT2/3 forums where guys are less concerned with what wheels or taillights will provide more bling, but rather with what will make the car go fast. Both 6sp and reenlist are excellent sources with good vendors and provide valuable information in my opinion. I find that I sell items much quicker on rennlist than here but that is due to the fact that most items I sell are suspension or race track oriented. I'm sure a meth kit or a set of 3076 turbos would sit there forever but get snatched up here in a heartbeat. It's worth the $10 membership per year or whatever it is. I've never has any issues there. Good bunch of guys. Sorry you had a bad experience.
 

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Old Nov 28, 2014 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by pwdrhound
I'm a renlister and find that site more of a drivers forum, especially the GT2/3 forums where guys are less concerned with what wheel look good or what carbon fiber bling to add to their interior, but rather with what will make the car go fast. Both forums have valuable information in my opinion. I find that I sell items much quicker on rennlist than here but that is due to the fact that most items I sell are suspension or race track oriented. I'm sure a meth kit or a set of 3076 turbos would sit there forever but get snatched up here in a heartbeat. It's worth the $10 membership per year or whatever it is. I've never has any issues there. Good bunch of guys. Sorry you had a bad experience.
I'm.sure you're exactly right as to why you don't rub in your track conditions as I'm running same size 18wheels/offsets exactly. I think the main difference in the conditions that increase the probability of rubbing in the rear liner have to do with full compression rounding an off camber 15 mph turn at speed is far different than road course or track sweepers. There is a much greater chance to stay flat on a track that while bouncing up and down on mountain 2 lane blacktop.
Just a theory.

As to RL. Its. Greatly informative place but a bit more "stuffy" and I'm sure I'm much more easily "tolerated" "here". Though not by much lol
 


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