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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 05:52 PM
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New H&R High End coilover package

Can someone who's an H&R dealer/distributer shed some light on this new package?New H&R High End package .

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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 06:23 PM
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They will be debuted at Sema next week, I am still waiting on pricing, but they are due in to the States soon.
 
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I hope its better than H&R's original 996TT coilovers, because they sucked (IMHO).

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Thats funny Craig!! But if all I am lead to believe is correct these are a far cry from your average coilover package. What are you running on your car now out of curiosity? Marc
 
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Originally posted by Bert Smith Moto
What are you running on your car now out of curiosity?
JRZ RS double adjustable racing dampers -- awesome!!! I briefly used the H&Rs, but hated them. I also used TechArt's coilovers -- they were great.

Good luck with the new H&Rs! I hope they are everything you are expecting.

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Thanx for the response guys.
 
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Everyone has their own experience.........possibly some has to do with the tuning the system (and the tuner). The early 2001-2003 system, which I believe was developed with Gemballa, had some issues especially with the available range of height adjust up front.
The system went through a couple generations and the current rendition is part of my suspension set-up. I've been very pleased.

Like anything else, you take risks on the 'bleeding' edge of a new product.........wait & see might be advised.
 
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Personally, I have the H&R and have had absolutely no issues. They perform great for my general driving canyon/track. Very compliant for street and track no bump stop issues, no dialing needed.

What I find strange is most guys not taking advantage of the highly adjustable suspensions, most find themselves not at optimal settings for the situation, and or too busy questioning the set ups and never dialing them in correctly.

Most find it to be a hassle to constantly having to fine tune, unless you spend most of your time at one track or street condition most will not even get around to fine tuning once installed.

FWIW, Most with the highly adjustable suspension have the set up sprung too tight and not ideal for both canyon and track.
 

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Appreciate all the comments guys. To tell you the truth, I've been on the fence about modding my turbo S, might not be with me for long when the 997 Turbo comes out. The thing is, I drive it and then think that maybe I should hold on to it and start modding and enjoying it instead of letting it go for a 997 turbo, that right now at least, looks pig ugly.
 
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I have the early H & R system and we did run into limits on adjustability in height when raising the car. H & R provided new front springs for free some 2 years later and i currently like the height and ride. Until fully adjustable in car systems are perfected and factory, there will be room for aftermarket. The shame of it is that most of that stuff comes out much later often after production has ended or we have moved on. JMO but keep your Turbo S until Porsche runs a full year of production on their new Turbo.
 
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Thanks Dr. Jim. Everytime I drive the car, I have second thoughts on selling it. The next track day will decide if I should modify it a bit or keep it stock.
 
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Originally posted by 03-turbo911
Thanks Dr. Jim. Everytime I drive the car, I have second thoughts on selling it. The next track day will decide if I should modify it a bit or keep it stock.
Know how you feel Khalid,after installed X73 and semi slicks started to catch virus modius.Just installed sachs light flywheel racing clutch,and have fallen back deep in love with the tt.Thinking of upgrading hp to 520,only thing stopping me is do not want to enter tuned category in competion as,as you know,people packing 750+.That and of course the 997tt.Think best philosopy here is life is short,enjoy what you have and make the most of it.
PS.If the next track day is gonna make you decide,will try to help you make up your mind
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EZ1, good one on the helping me decide part

On the F1 curcuit, the higher horsepower cars would show off their power, but we will be competing in the short and very technical track, same as last time. The horsepower adantage won't be that pronounced, at least in my opinion.

If by the 520, you mean RUF's 520 package, than you're better off going for the 550 package. I've been in a GT2 with the 550 and, man is that thing a riot.

If i'm selling, I want to keep the car stock just for the sake of the next buyer. If I decide I'm keeping it, then the new H&R package would certainly be one that I'd like to consider.
 
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Just got a bit more info on the suspension. It is indeed the exact suspension that is on the Alzen Motorsports/h&r race car. Suspension consists of---
2 front axle friction-bearing shock absorber struts, bound and rebound adjustable
2 rear axle aluminum shock absorbers
upper wheel bearings front and rear
all main and helper springs
lower wishbones, cut of high tension aluminum
front axle steering tie rods, complete
rear axle steering tie rods, complete
rear axle links, complete

The advantages of these parts are a higher solidity and a faster installation and removal. For exchanging the lower wishbones and the steering tie rods on front and rear, it is not necessary to press out the conical bolts anymore.

And the most important part price $14,750 plus installation.
Available and ready to ship.

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Assembled suspension- minus coilover itself
 
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