Disappoingting DYNO Result - but satisfying power
Thanks for all the responses !
Originally posted by oak
numbers seem way low in comparison to what they claim. have it checked out.
numbers seem way low in comparison to what they claim. have it checked out.
Originally posted by aj996tt
Definitely get a second opinion on a dynojet.
Definitely get a second opinion on a dynojet.
Originally posted by Red Comet
Was this a 3rd gear dyno run? It would explain a lot.
Was this a 3rd gear dyno run? It would explain a lot.
Originally posted by Neil
What octane gas were you running.
Neil
What octane gas were you running.
Neil
Originally posted by Todd @ EVO
Steve,
I spoke with Jesse yesterday regarding your car. From my calculations your numbers are right on for that type of dyno. I dyno tested a 996TT with the same upgrades as yours yesterday on our 2WD dynojet and saw 542 RWHP and 559 RWTQ on race gas and 525 RWHP and 540 RWTQ on pump 91 octane gas. The dyno dynamics notoriously have a very low reading as compared to other dynos. I have been told that the correction factor on that dyno for 4WD is 40-45%. Contact me if you want more information. Take care. Todd
Steve,
I spoke with Jesse yesterday regarding your car. From my calculations your numbers are right on for that type of dyno. I dyno tested a 996TT with the same upgrades as yours yesterday on our 2WD dynojet and saw 542 RWHP and 559 RWTQ on race gas and 525 RWHP and 540 RWTQ on pump 91 octane gas. The dyno dynamics notoriously have a very low reading as compared to other dynos. I have been told that the correction factor on that dyno for 4WD is 40-45%. Contact me if you want more information. Take care. Todd
Bottom line - the result I got was a "Buzz kill" more than an indication of dissatisfaction!
Originally posted by MikeM
Steve,
In your spreadsheet, you have the AFR data for the chipped run, but not the stock run. Do you have this data? It's clear that most of the power is coming from the increased boost, but I'm curious if they changed the mixture at all versus stock.
-Mike
Steve,
In your spreadsheet, you have the AFR data for the chipped run, but not the stock run. Do you have this data? It's clear that most of the power is coming from the increased boost, but I'm curious if they changed the mixture at all versus stock.
-Mike
Thanks again for everyone'w feedback and I would love to get a referral to another dyno venue.
Steve
Pic attached - sorry for the size.
Last edited by INVICTO; Dec 4, 2005 at 02:14 PM.
40-45% loss on that AWD dyno?!?!??!?! WTF? That makes absolutely no sense.
AWE has one of the best AWD Dynos.... Mustang. The loss factor for that AWD dyno is only 17%. That's very close to a 2WD dynojet (15%).
I cant believe a similar awd dyno would have a loss factor of 40-45%.
With just a chip, my stock k16 turbos and exhaust (nothing else)... i dynoed at 437 AWHP.
With my Stage II turbos.... 496AWHP
Both setups on 93 pump gas
Definitely go 3rd party and get another dyno run.
AWE has one of the best AWD Dynos.... Mustang. The loss factor for that AWD dyno is only 17%. That's very close to a 2WD dynojet (15%).
I cant believe a similar awd dyno would have a loss factor of 40-45%.
With just a chip, my stock k16 turbos and exhaust (nothing else)... i dynoed at 437 AWHP.
With my Stage II turbos.... 496AWHP
Both setups on 93 pump gas
Definitely go 3rd party and get another dyno run.
Originally posted by PorschePhd
Oh lord that setup will not work. The air has to be streamed directly into the intercooler. That will heat soak through the first run.
Oh lord that setup will not work. The air has to be streamed directly into the intercooler. That will heat soak through the first run.
Do I need something like the Formula 1 radiator cooler fans that attach to the side inlets?
This is the first time I have taken a car to a dyno so I don't have the experience to ensure they set up correctly.
I'm willing to go to a different shop in SoCal that has a better setup and alternative equipment. Any suggestions?
Thanks,
Steve
Last edited by INVICTO; Dec 4, 2005 at 02:33 PM.
from looking at the graph... likes like a 5th gear pull.
what do u guys recommend- 4th or 5th.
what do u guys recommend- 4th or 5th.
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2001 996TT 3.6L and stock ECU
9.66 seconds @ 147.76 mph 1/4 mile click to view
160 mph @ 9.77 seconds in 1/4 mile click to view
50% OFF ON PORSCHE ECU TUNING BLACK FRIDAY SPECIAL
It seems that the chipped program does not actually spool up any faster than stock as some have stated on this board before.
The boost curves are almost identical up the point where the stock program limits boost.
Is anyone else seeing this?
The boost curves are almost identical up the point where the stock program limits boost.
Is anyone else seeing this?
Originally posted by INVICTO
Thanks Stephen,
Do I need something like the Formula 1 radiator cooler fans that attach to the side inlets?
This is the first time I have taken a car to a dyno so I don't have the experience to ensure they set up correctly.
I'm willing to go to a different shop in SoCal that has a better setup and alternative equipment. Any suggestions?
Thanks,
Steve
Thanks Stephen,
Do I need something like the Formula 1 radiator cooler fans that attach to the side inlets?
This is the first time I have taken a car to a dyno so I don't have the experience to ensure they set up correctly.
I'm willing to go to a different shop in SoCal that has a better setup and alternative equipment. Any suggestions?
Thanks,
Steve
I'll add a video of an EVO750 dyno run later
Originally posted by Erik@RPM
Guys - Like Todd at EVO said, a DynoDyanamics dyno always reads significantly less than a dynojet or mustang dyno - this is a known fact.
We were going to get an AWD dynodynamics dyno at our shop, and even the rep from their company said it will read from 15 up to 20% less than a dynojet or mustang. Considering this, that makes perfect sense.
Guys - Like Todd at EVO said, a DynoDyanamics dyno always reads significantly less than a dynojet or mustang dyno - this is a known fact.
We were going to get an AWD dynodynamics dyno at our shop, and even the rep from their company said it will read from 15 up to 20% less than a dynojet or mustang. Considering this, that makes perfect sense.
I use a DynoDynamics dyno for all of my cars (except the TT since it's not a AWD dyno). Anyway..it's well known throughout my area that this particular DynoDynamics dyno reads at least 10% lower than the Dynojet Dyno that is also in the area.
We were going to get an AWD dynodynamics dyno at our shop, and even the rep from their company said it will read from 15 up to 20% less than a dynojet or mustang. Considering this, that makes perfect sense.
Originally posted by Ray
I think he mean 15-20% on top of mustang 17%. It will close to 40% total.
I think he mean 15-20% on top of mustang 17%. It will close to 40% total.
thanks rmrmd1956
Originally posted by rmrmd1956
The 2 'snail' fans should be right against the intercooler outlet, blowing air backwards through the intercooler so you feel a strong airflow out both sidevents.
I'll add a video of an EVO750 dyno run later
The 2 'snail' fans should be right against the intercooler outlet, blowing air backwards through the intercooler so you feel a strong airflow out both sidevents.
I'll add a video of an EVO750 dyno run later
Wherever I go next I''ll make this suggestion.
I'm still looking for a reputable third party dyno in SoCal that other 6speeders have used before.
Thanks,
Steve





