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996TT - Bilstein PSS10+GT3 Sways - Floaty feeling - Correct Setup?

Old May 4, 2016 | 08:41 AM
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+1 with John

More front camber will help also but you will need hardware for that. The total should be something in the range of 0.0 to -.04 front and -.25 to -.30 rear depending on how aggressive you want to be. The rear really dictates what the front does. The first thing to try along with shock settings.

Unless you meant to write .30 toe in rear?

The rest is as good as you can get it unless you can put in the front which would make the car handle better especially with the wide track you have.
 

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Old May 4, 2016 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by SamboTT@ByDesign
+1 with John

More front camber will help also but you will need hardware for that. The total should be something in the range of 0.0 to -.04 front and -.25 to -.30 rear depending on how aggressive you want to be. The rear really dictates what the front does. The first thing to try along with shock settings.

Unless you meant to write -.30 rear?

The rest is as good as you can get it unless you can put in the front which would make the car handle better especially with the wide track you have.
Hi Sam,


These values are for the total Toe? ->(The total should be something in the range of 0.0 to -.04 front and -.25 to -.30 rear)


Actually my car have a total toe positive 0° 03'. I saw some exemples and all the cars have at rear positie toe

These setup are fine for street use, correct?:

Bilstein PSS10:
Front - 6
Rear - 7



The camber values are: Front (-1°20') and Rear (-1° 50')
The Total Toe are: Front (-0°04') and Rear (-0° 25')


The castor is: Front (7° 30')

K.P.I. is: Front (18° 30')

Included Angle is: Front (17°24')

The cross camber are: Front (-0°26') and Rear (0° -14')


Thanks,
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Toe for each side
Going a little softer me help. The porpousing is sort of a frequency so on some set ups a stiffer shock will control it and on others a softer shock will reduce it
 
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Originally Posted by vshugo996
Please, tell me a good alignment specs for street use.


Thanks,
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Cars and Coffee alignment = OEM TT spec

Driver's street alignment = OEM GT2 spec

Any decent shop will have those in their machine.

Do NOT EVER set rear toe as negative. That would make handling dangerous. Total rear toe should be +0º30' (equals +0.50º) Do not confuse degrees with minutes. Keep in mind that 1.0º = 60'. Porsche specs alignment setting only in degrees and minutes while some shops will display toe in millimeters.
 

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Originally Posted by pwdrhound
Cars and Coffee alignment = OEM TT spec

Driver's street alignment = OEM GT2 spec

Any decent shop will have those in their machine.

Do NOT EVER set rear toe as negative. That would make handling dangerous. Total rear toe should be +0º30' (equals +0.50º) Do not confuse degrees with minutes. Keep in mind that 1.0º = 60'. Porsche specs alignment setting only in degrees and minutes while some shops will display toe in millimeters.
Very good info John.

I have ordered monoball bearings F & R and also adding solid adjustable bushings in front LCA, I already have them in the back. I will ask for GT2 spec alignment after installation.
 
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Originally Posted by pwdrhound
Cars and Coffee alignment = OEM TT spec

Driver's street alignment = OEM GT2 spec

Any decent shop will have those in their machine.

Do NOT EVER set rear toe as negative. That would make handling dangerous. Total rear toe should be +0º30' (equals +0.50º) Do not confuse degrees with minutes. Keep in mind that 1.0º = 60'. Porsche specs alignment setting only in degrees and minutes while some shops will display toe in millimeters.
Sorry, I´m confused...
I understand you but Sam suggested negative toe for rear "The total should be something in the range of 0.0 to -.04 front and -.25 to -.30 rear "


Have you the GT2 alignment full specs?


Thanks,
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Originally Posted by vshugo996
Sorry, I´m confused...
I understand you but Sam suggested negative toe for rear "The total should be something in the range of 0.0 to -.04 front and -.25 to -.30 rear "


Have you the GT2 alignment full specs?


Thanks,
VS
NO, POSITIVE toe in rear
 
Old May 5, 2016 | 11:22 AM
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Correct. Again my backwards brain. Both front and rear are toed in. The front minimal and the rear .25ish per side. My opinion. John also had a really good suggestion the way he laid it out. If anything just a little more toe in on the rear and more camber in the John also had a really good suggestion the way he laid it out. If anything just a little more to toe in on the rear, little less in front and more camber in the front.
 
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