996 Turbo / GT2 Turbo discussion on previous model 2000-2005 Porsche 911 Twin Turbo and 911 GT2.

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Old Jan 13, 2006 | 06:29 PM
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confirm road & track numbers

in the sept '05 of road & track's road test summary says (pg 133),

911 S coupe (issue 3-05) price as tested $91,560, 355 hp:
0-60 in 3.9, 0-100 in 9.6, 1/4 mile in 12.3 @ 114.8

911 turbo (issue 11-00) price as tested $118,365, 415 hp:
0-60 in 4.0, 0-100 in 9.2, 1/4 mile in 12.4 @115.6

im assuming R&T is talkin bout the '05 997 S vs '01 996 tt
(355hp vs 415hp).

im sorry, but i have no other data to compare to. and of course, im comparing stock vs stock, i know many other 996tt's on this forum are much faster.

i thought the 997 S numbers were 4.6 in the 0-60, seems like this is inaccurate. can anyone can confirm?
 
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I think 4.6 is a Porsche claimed number, and of course that's going to be conservitive.

The best non-X50 Turbo 0-60 time I've seen published is 3.9 sec.

The 997S does pretty well in the 0-60 range because Porsche not only increased the power, but because they also changed the gearing.
 

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so the stock 997 S's numbers are that close to the stock 996 tt's? any #'s on the 997 c4S by chance? im considering those 3 cars.
 
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was that 3.9 sec a 997 s?
 
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I personally don't know of any published 997 C4S numbers...besides those provided by Porsche.

The big difference between the Turbos and the 997S's is TORQUE. I wouldn't just go by magazine 0-60 numbers...there is a big difference in the actual experience the two cars provide.
 
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Hmm fastest ive seen for the 997S was 4.2 by road and track vs a c6 vette, so that 3.9 is news to me.. But in the real world it wont be anywhere near 3.9 and that's with them powershifting and abusing the clutch i read, its very quick but the 996tt would still whoop it badly
 
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Originally posted by newtonold
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was that 3.9 sec a 997 s?
No, a non-X50 Turbo. Recorded by Car and Driver.

The X50 Turbo has done a 3.7 sec 0-60 run.
 
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Hmm fastest ive seen for the 997S was 4.2 by road and track vs a c6 vette, so that 3.9 is news to me..
The 3.9 sec time I quoted was by a non-X50 Turbo...like I said in my post.

The best 997S time I've seen recorded is also 3.9 sec...March issue of Road & Track.
 
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Originally posted by Dock (Atlanta)
The 3.9 sec time I quoted was by a non-X50 Turbo...like I said in my post.

The best 997S time I've seen recorded is also 3.9 sec...March issue of Road & Track.
Dock i understand but i wasnt quoting you LOL, i was looking at the info he posted
 
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Buy the TT, it will beat the **** out of a 997S.

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ive driven both cars and the TT feels like its much faster than the 997 S, prob cuz of the 413 lbs of torque vs the 295 you mentioned.

i was just surprised to see those figures to be so close.
 
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Originally posted by newtonold
so the stock 997 S's numbers are that close to the stock 996 tt's? any #'s on the 997 c4S by chance? im considering those 3 cars.
They aren't that close... Ask anyone on the forum who has run against a 997S.
 
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Originally posted by newtonold
ive driven both cars and the TT feels like its much faster than the 997 S, prob cuz of the 413 lbs of torque vs the 295 you mentioned.

i was just surprised to see those figures to be so close.
I have a feeling that the figures were "adjusted" for conditions...
 
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from all I've heard the 997S is deceptively fast... more so than the 355 hp would suggest. The turbo would still beat it in a straight line though.
 
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Originally posted by iLLM3
Dock i understand but i wasnt quoting you LOL, i was looking at the info he posted
My bad...
 


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