My car is called my winter bike. When the weather is bad and I can’t use a motorcycle then, I’m in the car. Street driving but I do love a good hit in the back. I would like to think I had a 1000hp car (crank) so 850whp??? That should do for now I think without going crazy money. Better for me if I can do in stages. By far my most important job is big, loud bov’s. Childish I know but turbo cars make some great noises

 

For what though? Bragging? You don't need much more than half that to have a really fast street car, unless you guys are grudge racing then yeah maybe I can understand but for the actual street 1,000 hp seems ridiculous as you can't ever use it. And how many of you guys cars are actually running right now making big HP numbers daily? Other than the AIM owner's car, everything else just seems to maintenance drive. I love going fast nowadays guys are just chasing numbers.

No doubt 1k HP is flying but rough on parts and the wallet. I'll stay slow.

 

well 1000whp you can run fairly reliable. When going to the 1200+ range you are really pushing the limits of a lot of parts especially trans and drivetrain.
you can use 1000whp on the street roll racing on drag radial and hook decent.

 

Even if you want a 800 rwhp on euro 98 with meth reliable set up, get ready to spend big money... and if you want 1000 rwhp it will get alot more expensive. Time to consider clutch, axles, and of course a trans work.. it will all start to bend... set aside $6800 for a tilton clutch alone...
so my suggestion is keep things moderate, actually in the real world 600 whp range and you will have plenty of swooshing sound with Bovs as well.. unless you have $30K to start with and you may end up with $45K after all said and done... if your lucky... this is not as simple and cheap as it may appear... a fuel system with install for 1000 whp will take your months salary... FYI
good luck with the set up,
markski

 

Hmmm, I’ll keep this short as I do not wish to offend. My monthly income is more than substantial. Please do not think because I’m careful not to be over charged, that I have little money. When using “known” “specialists” with these cars you tend to pay a ridiculous amount of “Porsche tax” for basic things. If you shop around, like I am, you can get things for the price they should be. Where you get these huge sums is betond me. Their are companies in the uk offering engine building with upgraded rods and head studs for around £20,000 plus any extra they can get. The parts come to, around £2500-3000! Then we have members on here, who are not “specialists” or professionals but still manage to remove, rebuild and replace these engines in 40-50 hours! So, around £17-18000 labour charge for at most 50 hours?

Some people are happy to point at what they want and write a cheque. I’m not. To each his own but I’ll pay for my own yacht before yours thank you

 

Stuff adds up fast. 1200 hp would cost a lot

Heads and cams with new lifters and springs 6000
Rods and good 12mm studs with case mods 4000
Pistons and liners 3000
Gasket sets 1300
Intake, throttle body 2000
On and on to 40,000

 

That’s 16k so far for a massive build plus labour. Not 25k for rebuild with rods. You have to admit that Porsche vendors are generally charging ridiculous amounts. 16k for your list plus 4K labour then you have a huge engine build. I’m looking for 1000 crank. I’m not afraid to pay for jobs that need to be done but 2500 for a y pipe? Eg. I can get one fanned here in titanium and have it gold plated for less than half that price. As I said. If you just want to go somewhere and get shafted, that’s your porogative. My next project, when I get this car exactly how I want it will be a gallardo or huracan turbo, again, looking at what people charge just for an exhaust on one of those is a joke! How are these people smart enough to have the income to pay for these cars?

No offence intended here guys, just my angle. I’m sure many of you disagree and that’s great so long as you are aware you’re wrong

 

not all, but many. and of the ones that don't overcharge you have to really do your homework to make sure you aren't getting cheaply/poorly made parts.

being able to do your own labor and fabrication helps a lot.

 

I was making a point, obviously I have no clue what your monthly salary is. But from reading your weeks of posts it does look like your trying to see what’s the cheaper and or maybe cost conscious approach. Maybe Im reading too much into it but I’ve been down this road and I’m telling you what appears to be $6k quickly ends up being twice that.
Bottom line is if you want a 1000 hp crank car that’s reliable, you will spend as much as your car is worth and then some. That’s a fact. With that said, there is no one way, or best way, nor cheaper vs. more expensive way. You can get so many different prices and possible options to get there that you can spend another year analyzing the pros and cons of each set up.
I’ll just give you one advice, keep it simple.
The more vendors you get involved the more chance of things going really bad. That’s when the Finger pointing starts. Pay a premium hold one company to give you a turn key 1000 hp car and you will thank me later. If you go bargain shopping for Parts who will give u a better price on a y pipe or turbos or fuel system etc. then expect a company to build a motor and you Drop this off at some shop in UK, your chances of having the car down for 2 plus years just went up dramatically. You want one company in charge from beginning to end. A lot things do not go as smooth as writing a check. It really is a big job. I’ve seen clients / members with similar situations where the engine builder is blaming the tuner and the installer is blaming you for bad parts. I’m tying to help you. I have no interest in your build. I had 900 whp in 2006 I paid my dues many moons ago.
Good luck
Markski

 

Markski is pretty spot on though, a legit build at a reliable 1000+ is 30 to 45 even at reasonable labor prices. I built my own motor, just a moderate build but I know what stuff costs. Great if you can swing it but we wouldn't want to see someone go into a project with the wrong impression on costs either way.

 

You can always price shop and get good deal on parts, most engine builders that have built 1100 + whp Porsche charge premium since there engines are proven to last. These engine are not easy to take apart once they have been put back together. If there is anything wrong with the engine it has to be pulled out of cars and stripped down. Common problems for High HP builds are cam timing is wrong, heads not sealing causing oil leaks, ect. I do 90% of my own labor and I will tell you, When it first fires up and there is a small issue. It sucks knowing you are going to spend atleast 6-10 more hours taking everything apart and putting it back together only to maybe find another issue. 1100whp is alot easier then 1300hp but still alot goes into it. I have seen it done, but most that make big power on the cheap don't have anything to back up there dyno's.

 

Thanks for all the info guys, it’s really helpful. I just got had for £900 to do manifold gaskets. Wish I did it myself now anyway. Still sore from that. I did, this summer have my bike built. Took it to a great bike racer/builder and sources all my own parts. He did an amazing job for a fair price. 285whp bike. Makes the car feel like a bus